neo Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 http://news.sky.com/story/1325316/girl-accidentally-kills-gun-instructor-with-uzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Sounds about right. The kick back on most weapons is bad enough and to let a 9 year go full auto by herself is asking for trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatooandy67 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Wtf ? Why would you take your 9 year old to shoot an Uzi ???? Beyond belief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bounty Bar Kid Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 America the land of the free where you can do anything you can dream of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Poor man and poor girl. He died trying to teach a child something he loved and she killed him while doing it. She has to live with that for the rest of her life. It's all just too awful for words. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The mind boggles, it really does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 awful, awful, awful but it has to be said - there are some things that should never be put together...............and this is one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 They have the right to bear arms and the right arm bears. Their gun laws need some serious looking at. And they need to get over the stupid ammendment and stop bending it to suit gun lobbist ideas. It was created back in the war of independence to allow militia to be formed from local residents. They now have a massive army and no need for militia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodder Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 They have the right to bear arms and the right arm bears. Their gun laws need some serious looking at. And they need to get over the stupid ammendment and stop bending it to suit gun lobbist ideas. It was created back in the war of independence to allow militia to be formed from local residents. They now have a massive army and no need for militia. I believe it's also aimed at stopping those in power from becoming totalitarian and so the people have the power to rise up in the event of this. It's archaic and wrong on so many levels. The place is called "bullets and burgers" nuff said really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Im all for sensible people owning & using guns responsibly, but it really makes you wonder what they were thinking off letting a 9 year old kid have a go with an UZI like that. Its hardly wonder she wouldnt be able to handle the recoil & control it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The Land of the Gun claims another victim....plus the 30 or so that'll die today in gun related incidents . Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) They would say widespread gun ownership is part of their culture and history blah blah, but bear baiting, 'witch' burning and public beheading were part of our culture at one time. Time for a change but we all know it won't happen. Edited August 27, 2014 by sipar69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Very sad for those involved ~ my thoughts are with the young girl who will have to live with this for the rest of her life and the instructors friends and family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexdax Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 why does anyone need a gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 why does anyone need a gun? They don't but I have to say I've enjoyed shooting many times. It is a very enjoyable thing to do when done safely. Unfortunately though in America it seems that they are some what lacking in common sense when it comes to guns & shooting. I mean letting a 9 year old girl shoot a fully automatic sub machine gun is just bonkers, ...most adults would struggle to control it & keep it on target as it has a vicious kick. America ~ no drinking or smoking before 21years old, ...but here's a full auto machine gun at 9 years old so go have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hands up if, as a nine year old boy, you'd have loved to shoot an Uzi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hands up if, as a nine year old boy, you'd have loved to shoot an Uzi? well yes, of course but thats what your parents and other responsible adults are for - they are supposed to say "Hell NO" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hands up if, as a nine year old boy, you'd have loved to shoot an Uzi? Definitely. But my parents who have developed some level of common sense at their age would rightly say 'dont be so bloody stupid' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Tbh, I'm not seeing a huge amount wrong with it. Given the context of their country, which is completely different to ours culturally with regards to guns, then really the only thing I can see wrong is that he didn't hold the gun with the child. Ultimately he's paid the price for that mistake, but I don't see anything wrong with getting children used to guns as long as you're teaching them a respect for them at the same time. Teach them how to use, how to control, how to be safe, but also teach them that they're f*cking dangerous. I'd almost compare it to the way that I see no harm in giving kids small amounts of alcohol with meals from an early age, to build up their respect for booze. Shooting guns is fun, no doubts about that, so if you can teach them to do it in a controlled environment then why not? The issue of whether guns should be as common as they are is another issue entirely, IHMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I remember a school trip to the Guards depot as a kid and being allowed to shoot .22 rifles on a range. Of course, a .22 is very different to an Uzi. Seems mad to me to put one of those in the hands of a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 then teach them with a single shot air rifle or something equally less lethal than an Uzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't think an air rifle is really comparable to a proper firearm. We don't know the back story here enough, really. If that was the first gun she's ever held, then that's utter stupidity. If she's grown up with guns and has happily fired most pistols then this may just have been the next step (giant leap?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't think an air rifle is really comparable to a proper firearm. We don't know the back story here enough, really. If that was the first gun she's ever held, then that's utter stupidity. If she's grown up with guns and has happily fired most pistols then this may just have been the next step (giant leap?). She was probably born duel weilding a couple of desert eagles and firing rpg's at the age of 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Air Training Corps will let you fire rifles in the UK from the age of 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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