Police encounter :(

[Kharmon]

So i got pulled yesterday 😳 i was driving around a roundabout well under the speed limit and all of a sudden lost the rear end but pulled it back no problem . I wasnt trying to go fast or even drift as i told the office i put it down to something been slippy on the road surface . he didnt buy it and charged me for driving without due care for others £100 fine and 3 points. I would like to challenge this in court as i really wasnt driving badly and he was about 3 cars back by himself and i arnt sure wever he got footage of it or not neither was he . where do i stand ?

[Stutopia]

Speak to a specialist solicitor if you want to challenge, but even if he has no footage it's still your word against a copper's.

[docwra]

Yes, unfortunately youll have a job proving that you werent pulling a cheeky drift. shame, as the difference is bloody obvious to anyone this side of Stevie Wonder. sounds like bored copper with nothing better to do

[ioneabee]

highly unlikely to go your way without footage or an impartial witness

[HaydnH]

Take some oil back to the roundabout and take some photos of it as evidence? Actually, that's probably illegal, ignore me...

[Adrian@TORQEN]

From my experience, unless you have a lot of money to play, just take it as it is. If it goes to court and found guilty, expect higher fees and fines, plus legal costs - solicitors, barrister etc.

 

Sorry to hear about it.

 

[StevoD]

cars dont just slide on there own

[Kharmon]

Fair enough thanks for the advice guys hopefully i should be able to do a course he mentioned and avoid the points.

[GMballistic]

Fair enough thanks for the advice guys hopefully i should be able to do a course he mentioned and avoid the points.

If there is a chance that you'll get the driver improvement course then that'll be much better for you.

 

Fingers crossed they offer it to you.

[modo]

Sounds like the driver improvement course is the way to go, if you get the chance. Do they teach how NOT to get caught? Or how to blag it ?

[Ekona]

Or how to pass the attitude test?

[Kharmon]

Haha ill let you know how the course is 😂

[coldel]

Good excuse to install a dash cam - at least it will show you cruising around in traffic and then probably you saying 'wooah phew' when the incident occured

[The Bounty Bar Kid]

Good excuse to install a dash cam - at least it will show you cruising around in traffic and then probably you saying 'wooah phew' when the incident occured

 

This

[Ricey]

When you say "well under the speed limit" If for example it's a 50mph road you still shouldn't be entering the roundabout at that speed.

 

Not trying to be condescending but have you considered you were going a little to fast?

 

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[Ekona]

Definitely going too fast if he lost the rear end.

 

Ironically the fact you controlled it went against you: If you'd lost it completely, it would've looked like a mistake rather than doing it on purpose. What does the FPN actually say?

[Rock_Steady]

Rear rubbers on the limit perhaps?

[Sargara]

As others have said above, not sure how you lose the backend at "well under the speed limit" as OP put it. Theres either something dangerously wrong with your car (tyres, shocks etc), something on the road (in which case others would have spun too...) or OP is telling fibs.

 

The 1st would be admitting your car is unroadworthy, dont do that.

The 2nd would mean there are witnesses as theirs spun too

The 3rd seems the most likely

 

I think its man up time and take the punishment in all honesty.

[veilside z]

Did you have the ESP off, I have not had this experience with it active.

[Richf]

Could have been a diesel spill i guess , thats not uncommon,on on roundabouts ask any biker

[nissanman312]

That was my excuse aswell lol

[WINKJ]

Could have been a diesel spill i guess , thats not uncommon,on on roundabouts ask any biker

 

agree - not sure how much it would impact a z though if just one wheel hits it?

[brillomaster]

quite a lot... slippy diff would sense the lack of traction, and send power to the wheel which isn't slipping. which if that tyre is already busy cornering, it may well break traction as well. not to mention most cars don't like having their cornering grip suddenly cut in half on one axle, possibly more than half if the diesel hits a weighted up outside tyre.

 

had a few nasty experiences running over liquids, was doing a trackday not that long ago and the car in front dropped oil... cue quite a squeaky bum moment as my car and the two cars following me understeered straight off the track. Luckily there was run off available and we managed to fan out and not hit each other!

[Ekona]

Odds are that if only one car spun up when going round that roundabout, it ain't going to be a diesel spill

[StevoD]

quite a lot... slippy diff would sense the lack of traction, and send power to the wheel which isn't slipping. which if that tyre is already busy cornering, it may well break traction as well. not to mention most cars don't like having their cornering grip suddenly cut in half on one axle, possibly more than half if the diesel hits a weighted up outside tyre.

 

had a few nasty experiences running over liquids, was doing a trackday not that long ago and the car in front dropped oil... cue quite a squeaky bum moment as my car and the two cars following me under steered straight off the track. Luckily there was run off available and we managed to fan out and not hit each other!

 

you dont drive on the street like you do on a track day though, if your coming off a roundabout flat out and with enough aggression that it can slide the car they probably had a fair reason to look at driving without due care and attention