LRF4N Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Got back from Rome yesterday and was looking forward to posting pics of the colosseum etc. Didn't think id be posting this.... Gutted doesn't even begin to describe it... The car was in the garage for a new timing belt and some cosmetic upgrades but the mechanic discovered some cowboy work underneath He was struggling to remove the pulleys and once he did he found the crank had been cut with an axle grinder and welded together- poorly There is a skyline specialist fairly close who I'm gonna call later for some advice but it looks like it's not worth it to keep going. Not the news I was expecting but he did have the heart to tell me once I got back and not ruin my holiday Couldn't have came at a worse time with show season just starting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Good jesus.......there are some right bronco's out there. Nightmare mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Oh bloody hell, that is rotten luck mate, such a nightmare its something you just cant pick up when buying a car - replacement engines knocking around for the £1500 mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Who did the work previous? My money is on Rising Sun/dyno tuner/whatever they are called this time around 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondo 300 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 They cut the crank itself or the crank pulley...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Vix Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Sorry to hear this Lrf4n , good of the guy not to ruin your holiday though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Argh BUT it may well be worth popping another engine in there, I presume yours was standard ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Woah, you cant just cut a crank and reweld it, thats crazy. Surely if its been working find up to this point its balanced though, any reason you wouldnt just ignore it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Must be recoverable mate? Good opportunity/excuse to drop in a low mile engine? Its going to cost but you will lose about the same amount if you scrap or sell low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Thanks guys. Il get pics up later. There were a couple of bits cut. Bought the car from jdm garage who took it in as a trade in. It was a track car at some point Col yea iv seen some cheaper but it's the same with a replacement engine- you never know the true history It's not just the cost of the engine it's the labour costs on top. It will quickly mount up to the cars value if not more. I have considered a different engine but the cost will be higher and less predictable I'm so pi**ed off the car was taking shape nicely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 I have thought about ignoring it but the mechanic advised not to. I will get a bit more for stripping it but it's the time and hassle. And it looks too good to break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Few guys on the forums are breaking their cars at the moment, might be an option to break all the parts off yours? You would certainly make plenty more money on it that way vs selling as a shell? It is just rotten bad luck coupled with some fecking bell end doing a cheap and dangerous job and hiding it previously. I guess at least now you know, you could have just been driving it about like a ticking time bomb... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Exactly mate. I couldn't believe it when he told me I thought I didn't like this car as much as the zed but I was proper gutted today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Woah, you cant just cut a crank and reweld it, thats crazy. Ive heard of, and probably done a lot of dodgy things myself in my time, but ive never heard of anyone cutting a crank up then rewelding it. Thats pretty mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Woah, you cant just cut a crank and reweld it, thats crazy. Ive heard of, and probably done a lot of dodgy things myself in my time, but ive never heard of anyone cutting a crank up then rewelding it. Thats pretty mental. I dont think its actually possible, having come from CA engines which @*!# their big ends every 20 minutes I know that even a light score can cause issues, a total reweld is never going to be balanced again. I can see that perhaps the very front part where the pulley attaches might have been grafted on, but like I say, if its not thrown a shell within 5 seconds of starting its probably not so much of a bodge job as you think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Woah, you cant just cut a crank and reweld it, thats crazy. Ive heard of, and probably done a lot of dodgy things myself in my time, but ive never heard of anyone cutting a crank up then rewelding it. Thats pretty mental. I dont think its actually possible, having come from CA engines which @*!# their big ends every 20 minutes I know that even a light score can cause issues, a total reweld is never going to be balanced again. I can see that perhaps the very front part where the pulley attaches might have been grafted on, but like I say, if its not thrown a shell within 5 seconds of starting its probably not so much of a bodge job as you think Yep I think your right. The vibrations and noise from some cut & shut crank would be pretty mad and im not sure why someone would even want to do that in the first place. Like you say, it must be more of a case of the pulley part being welded on for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Gutted for you irfan that's @*!# news. If I were you I'd just run it til it blew. And then I'd be looking to put a v8 in it. Every cloud and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemansim Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Woah, you cant just cut a crank and reweld it, thats crazy. Ive heard of, and probably done a lot of dodgy things myself in my time, but ive never heard of anyone cutting a crank up then rewelding it. Thats pretty mental. I dont think its actually possible, having come from CA engines which @*!# their big ends every 20 minutes I know that even a light score can cause issues, a total reweld is never going to be balanced again. I can see that perhaps the very front part where the pulley attaches might have been grafted on, but like I say, if its not thrown a shell within 5 seconds of starting its probably not so much of a bodge job as you think +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Woah, you cant just cut a crank and reweld it, thats crazy. Ive heard of, and probably done a lot of dodgy things myself in my time, but ive never heard of anyone cutting a crank up then rewelding it. Thats pretty mental. I dont think its actually possible, having come from CA engines which @*!# their big ends every 20 minutes I know that even a light score can cause issues, a total reweld is never going to be balanced again. I can see that perhaps the very front part where the pulley attaches might have been grafted on, but like I say, if its not thrown a shell within 5 seconds of starting its probably not so much of a bodge job as you think I'd be amazed if you could weld and retain balance, if you could the cost would outweigh a new crank ? I would expect it take shake the engine to pieces I think it warrants further investigation, is it possible he has got it wrong ? Crap news mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) Hmm, perhaps get someone else to have a butchers at it if people are thinking along those lines... How long have you had it, and been driving it around ? Edited April 15, 2014 by RobPhoboS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Iv had it over 2 years. Overall it runs well considering what we found He's gonna call the skyline specialist himself to avoid me getting info wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonk Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Gutted for you. Have a look at http://crankshaftrep....org/welding/��, might not be as bad as you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Adding weld to journals is a very different kettle of fish to welding a whole crank ............ and the mechanic wouldnt be able to have seen the journals without taking the sump off either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I've also known people to weld the centre of crank pulleys you run a ring around the hole and the heat expansion can pop stubbon ones off , the idea is to fit a new one afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Gutted for you Irfan, really hope you can come to an economical and practical solution, such a great looking car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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