AK350Z Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Do you think we are going to have a repeat of the last numbering sequence? 390Z anyone? Surely then you might as well have a V8? I'm sure it would fit, you can get a V12 in a vantage after all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Can't see them making another one at this rate, it's hardly like people are breaking down Nissan dealer's doors to buy the current one. Shame really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugara Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 http://img57.imageshack.us/i/dsc0017he7jc8.jpg/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Suppose, might be plenty of time yet though, the 350 was on sale for what 6 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James B Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I dont think the 370z is any less succesful than the 350. If somones got an article or sales stats to proive me wrong be interested to see it. They are just exclusive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Think this may well be the last one, a couple of facelifts of the current model maybe. The only possibility is that they might downgrade it, a bit like Toyota did with the MR2 or, a smaller engine with a Turbo?? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350ash Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 In October's issue of EVO it talks about the future of Japanese sports cars and under Nissan Z it said: "Strongly rumoured to be getting a Mercedes diesel or hybrid after a deal was recently finalised between the two companies." Not very exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 http://img57.imageshack.us/i/dsc0017he7jc8.jpg/ Hope this one doesn't make it , looks like that awful Lexus coupe thingy The make or break in Europe will be the emission restrictions, I think a V8 is very unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 It'll end up going the way of the 8.......discontinued because its too expensive to run (as a new car - tax, company car braket ETC, fuel), too pricey to redevelop to be greener and once normal humans get over the initial OMG factor and cold hard running costs hit home, people start run for the nearest VW garage to bag up a nice sensible Diesel Golf, the demand drops off and just us oddbods are left snapping and enjoying the leftovers. Lets face it.......people who actually appreciate good cars/engineering are in the minority........left to her own devices my missus would of bought an R plate Porsche Coxster or a 53 plate Chrysler Crossfire The general consensus around the office when Carla told them she was getting a Zed was......why are you so excited? Its a Nissan. Philistines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I ran an 8 for 4 years and you're so right, once the "wow" factor went for the ones that only saw a pretty motor, then reality bit. I do think, however that the Z range carries the confidence of having a conventional engine, rotaries are scary to the uneducated. This is why the residuals on the 350 are still pretty good, the 8 is suffering and they are becoming hard to sell, that coupled with the fuel consumption of a Ferrari is not good. If Nissan make a new Z in a few years, I believe it will be similar in power and size, may well be a hybrid as a few custom marks, ie Lotus, are going down this road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I heard the rumours about Merc and Diesel too, I hope they are not true. I think they will go hybrid though, its the only way. I can see Fezza and other supercars going that way too, they are actively researching and developing them. Still if that means a 400Z with a bit of leccy help, so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrh Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I dont think the 370z is any less succesful than the 350. If somones got an article or sales stats to proive me wrong be interested to see it. AutoExpress reported a couple of weeks ago that Nissan has only sold 733 Zs so far this year = Less than 1,000 per year. From the MOT stats that were released a while back, Nissan UK sold every 350 it could get in 2004 (~2,000) plus there were loads being imported to meet demand. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/258745/plug_to_be_pulled_on_the_cube.html It's already been widely reported that following the Renault-Daimler deal the next Z will use a Merc platform and/or engine: http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/250112/ My guess would be a return of the 300ZX name Although it'll effectively be the new Chrysler Crossfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 They'd probably be importing 370z's too if the exchange rate was as favourable now as a few years back. Import Zeds were far cheaper back then than ones off the forecourt. Given the hard times in the economy I dont think Nissan are doing badly, I know the black editions were flying out of the door. You cant compare year on year sales when one set were from when the economy was booming and one from now. I do think we are slowly seeing the end of sports cars though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMe Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I do think we are slowly seeing the end of sports cars though I don't think we are. I think we're seeing the end of affordable fossil power sports cars. People who buy porper sports cars (Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo etc) don't car about tax, ruinning costs etc so they'll be made for a while yet. Zed buyers, and RX-8 buyers etc will be put off by the tax increase, fuel prices etc and so they won't manufactor these thirsty V6 or rotary engined car. I am a bit of a V enginge geek, I love V6s and V8s, but the more I read about the electric cars the more they excite me. Have a read up on the new Jag C-x75 (X-c75?). Over 1000 torque, and 800bhp, and one gear! Fecking hell. They'll soon produce affordable (to manufacture) performance electric engines and we'll all be happy again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 we'r ein that uncomfortable crossover phase between fossil fules being made obselete and alternative fuel taking over. electric cars are only temporary, you can;t get the mileage off them and they take to long to charge. the future will be hydrogen fuel cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Unfortunately as has been mentioned it's the running costs and that massive tax bill that have put many off buying the 370 an of course stigma of the Nissan badge( we know better!) I really hope Nissan don't go with mercedez talk about bad to worse! New crossfire? You mean new fiat? Before I sold my 300c, I read that Chrysler had decided to keep the same underpinnings for the next 10 years on all their cars but use Fiat engine tech to save on costs and share more parts etc . Think all Manufacturers will be doing that in the future. There will always be a Market for sports cars but subject to running costs and the general feeling about the economy. Personally I think the electric car concepts are a waste of time until battery technology improves. Give it 10 years then we should have something interesting to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 Hydrogens still years off, I think that in the mean time you'll see some pure battery vehicles for cities, and extended range cars for most other areas, i.e. a smaller battery unit attached to a small engine or turbine running at a near constant rpm just charging the battery. Low fuel consuption coupled with the benefits of electric motor torque. Of course, given enough market forces and regulation (Euro emmisions rules etc), it's amazing how far piston engine fuel efficiency has come in the last 5-10 years. Direct injection, low pressure turbos, and lower friction materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 for the mass buying public, the diesel engine is the current eco route high miles for low cost and low tax brackets, hybrid is great but out of the price range of most hence why its so limited at the mo. the more its used the cheaper it will get. advantages of electric, very few mechanical parts; power is direct so acceleration is very rapid. only 1 gear. a mix of electric and hydrogen wold give the best performance for us people. as well as some of these concept gas turbines like jag used in their concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMe Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Have a read up on the Jag X-C75 engine. As well as 60 mile trip on batteries (enough for most commutes?) it has 2 turbine engines and a diesel engine, so you get the best of all worlds. Massive power, battery power and Turbine/Diesel power as a backup. Sounds like a good interim solution to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Except the sound. Turbine engines don't sound like a V12. No-one buys a sports car because it's got super-high MPG or because it gets around the congestion charge, they buy them because THEY GIVE YOU BALLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number86 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I stumbled across this article a while ago. http://www.370z.com/MagazineArticles/ta ... -2011.aspx Provided they can keep the weight sensible I think this would be amazing. I test drove a Lexus GS450h and a Prius it certainly aint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Either hybrid or they will kill the Z badge off, sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz77 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 just a fantasy a 380z with an NA version of the R35's 3.8L engine. will only take them japanese a sunday afternoon to develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Or just put the R35 engine in it? I do think they missed a trick by killing off the turbo'd Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djrm Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 There is the 380RS... Doesn't look any better than the 350 though and I think it's only available in Japan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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