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37 minutes ago, veeg33 said:

Can someone please work with Keyser and start a YouTube channel about this build??? This is awesome!! :#1:

 

25 minutes ago, P15UL T said:

Incredible. Looking forward to following this.  A YouTube channel isn’t a bad shout :)

 

Paul 

 

 

Thanks guys I appreciate both the positive comments and enthusiasm, but I'm not really up there with the Project Binky and other amazing youtubers!

I'm happy boring you lot with my exploits and I have a thread going on rods n sods hopefully to get input from guys that have done similar before, although it seems that putting modern suspension / running gear in is less heard of and dare I say may even be frowned upon :scare:- not sure how they are taking me at the moment :lol:

 

But stay tuned and hopefully I can provide some entertainment over the winter and see where this leads us - possibly an awesome build but probably another unfinished project on eBay :lol:

 

Keyser

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Good stuff! Back in 2003 I bought totally original barn find "Sit up & beg" Ford Pop like this. Mine was a 1958. Having a Ford Pop hotrod was something I had dreamed about since I was a kid when I used to buy Streetmachine and Custom Car magazines every month and drool over the cars.

 

The way everyone did pop`s back then was viva or triumph front end, jag back axle & a rover v8.

 

I had it sitting in my drive for ages and ages until I realised that with a wife & young kids I dont even get time to wash my daily car, let alone work on any project cars so I sold it off. Was a shame really as whilst the engine was seized and the wooden floor was rotten, it was complete and had all the original parts/glass etc. Its still something I want to do one day, but god knows when I will have the time.

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We used to read the same magazines, I was the same but never had time to do any builds until my kids were grown up a bit and the house was sorted, but better late than never aye :)

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51 minutes ago, Keyser said:

 

 

 

Thanks guys I appreciate both the positive comments and enthusiasm, but I'm not really up there with the Project Binky and other amazing youtubers!

I'm happy boring you lot with my exploits and I have a thread going on rods n sods hopefully to get input from guys that have done similar before, although it seems that putting modern suspension / running gear in is less heard of and dare I say may even be frowned upon :scare:- not sure how they are taking me at the moment :lol:

 

But stay tuned and hopefully I can provide some entertainment over the winter and see where this leads us - possibly an awesome build but probably another unfinished project on eBay :lol:

 

Keyser

This thread update is something i look forward to everyday :thumbs: 

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I just went and had a nose on Rods n Sods for your thread (I'm nosey! :lol: ). I liked one of the comments advising you to keep it simple and finish the build, as if to say you are new to this sort of thing. These guys have NO idea whats in store for them!!!

 

Also, FWIT, I think a YouTube channel would be cool. You can start each episode with a story... 'Hi Youtube, During the war.....' :D 

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Pull up a sandbag and plug in a prick through I have a story for you,

During the war we often came across these bleeding smart arses, I can tell you these war dodgers thought they knew it all but they knew nothing!

Let me tell you the likes of @Jetpilot and @mattross1313 were all mouth and no trousers, but when the hordes came over the hill we showed 'em a thing or two,

They found out where the term "Friendly Fire" came from ;)

 

Anyway thought I'd update you guys n gals on how little you can get done in an hour an a half!

 

Not much :lol:

Heavy lift required .................. no problem new winch to the recue

 

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turned it over to get to the bottom and finish welding the new (old bits of scaffolding) supports in place

 

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Prepared the corners

 

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and more welding :lol: 

 

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Legs next, was going for 4 then 6 but think I'll up it to 8 - don't want it sagging!!

 

Also got some new toys

 

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Reciprocating saw as I broke mine :( and a mask - all the grinding and sanding down rust is making a very dusty work space and I have the doors shut so I annoy the neighbours less ;)

I use the paper disposable ones but they steam up my glasses, don't fit well and last about 5 minutes! so I thought I'd try something a bit more industrial, first impression is really good, comfy enough and does not steam up my glasses :thumbs:

 

That's your lot until Friday night at the earliest as I'm out on Thursday nights so saviour it :lol:

 

 

Keyser  AKA Uncle Albert

 

Maximum Effort :thumbs:

 

 

 

 

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You ain’t joking when you say maximum effort! 

 

I think the youtube channel is a great idea. If you don’t have a voice for presenting just use text and music, no talking required 

 

But then again if people can watch knobends like schmee I’m sure you would be fine

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10 hours ago, andy james said:

Great work Mate. Watching this one daily.

Bit worried that the Z Shed could end up with a flat roof if you get all over excited and winch the Pop,RSJ frame and that V8 up to the ridge!! 

 

:lol:

 

Don't you remember standing in the rain on top of wall while we winched a 400KG RSJ in the air mate? Then trying to finesse it onto the steel box section upright??? :scare:

I have total faith that my winch wire will snap before the RSJ or your block work even groans :lol:

I think the maximum  load I will lift will be well inside the tolerance of the roof - but I may be wrong :scare: Hopefully not though!!!!

 

I have no intention of even lifting the whole lot it's original purpose was to lift the body on and off the chassis but it's already helped with the rear subframe and now my new chassis table so it's proving it's worth :thumbs: 

If it all goes horribly wrong you will have more to do than just my new steps next time you are round :lol:

 

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13 hours ago, Keyser said:

I can tell you these war dodgers thought they knew it all but they knew nothing!

Hey, I didn't dodge the war, there was a height requirement and I was too short...

1 hour ago, Keyser said:

were all mouth and no trousers,

Can't argue with this point. We all know the wife wears the trousers in our house :lol: 

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Ahh you may mock but I joined the Army at a very young age -

 

 

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and During The War  I witnessed many strange things not least of all a real officers tea party in one of the 'Stans'

 

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Aaaaaaaand back to the build :lol:

 

 

So I spent a few late evenings this week getting ahead on a job that the client wanted sorted by end of play Friday - Signed of at 10AM this morning giving me the afternoon of :thumbs:

 

and as these had arrived -

 

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I thought I'd crack on this afternoon,

 

Got some legs sorted out

 

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with cross bars for the wheels

 

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That all went wheelie well ;)

 

so I flipped it back over to test the deliberate mistake

 

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Yes it was deliberate the legs don't reach the floor :lol:

 

I'm not actually happy with it I gave it 10mm clearance when on the wheels and it's fairly close but its not enough, I will just have to cut a bit off them when I do the final bit.

However the parts I need to finish haven't arrived yet so I left that there  for now and moved onto .............................

 

 

 

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I have spent a lot of time this afternoon measuring bits taking notes doing calculations an trying to see if what I want is possible, I think it is but I can't prove it and I can't easily mock it up in fact it would be just as hard to mock it up as actually build it.

So I'm going to build it :lol:

You will have to bare with me the next few updates may be a total fail and end up in the scrap pile and back to plan ..................... Errr I think its back to plan G but I get confused.

Any way its all good fun so here goes,

 

Right I'm sure you all recognise this,

 

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Yes I kept that as well. Now try and replicate it :scare:

 

Length of 50 x 75 x 3mm wall box section with a pie cut

 

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Clamped

 

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Angle check

 

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Prepared

 

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welded

 

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and repeat to give 2 

 

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Can you see where I'm going with this?

Hopefully it will work and hopefully it will be worth the effort, that's as far as I got today but should get a couple of hours in on it tomorrow :thumbs:

 

Keyser

 

Maximum Effort :thumbs:

 

 

 

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Morning all, I see a few confused reactions to my last post, maybe this will help or maybe it won't :lol: 

Saturday morning (after a 7:30AM call out :disguise: which meant on the way back I could grab some extra bits of metal :thumbs: )

I started by cutting out and cleaning up the mounting pins.

 

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then the same as the rears started mounting them in the box section,

 

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Check for square

 

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Lots of measurements taken and noted in case it works and I need to build the other side as well.

 

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welded

 

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Cleaned  and we have

 

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Awesome aye??

 

Well actually no it's pants :(

 

Cross member mounts -

 

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Lovely, but banana arm mount -

 

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How the F%*@ did that happen?? :mad:

I Checked the notes sheets, I double checked the measurements on the original and realised I'm a muppet!!!!

When I measured the the distance from banana arm pin to the rear cross-member pin I measured inside face to inside face due to the height difference, I usually always always measure centre to centre!

When I transferred the measurements to my replica I read my notes and marked the measurement BUT I forgot to add the 10mm for the 20mm diameter pin when I centre punched it :doh:

This means I am 10mm short between the mountings, I mean it's only 10mm and I happen to have eccentric mounts in the suspension from the previous owner so it will probably be OK to get the tracking and camber back in after it's all put together and that relies on me finishing it :lol:

 

 

Yer right like I'm going to settle for that option so cut it off and try again,

 

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Now a stroke of luck - well if doing the same job twice can be lucky!?

I left an overhang on the back edge of the plate to help with mounting the next piece of the new chassis so I was able to simply turn the plate round get the right distance this time and weld it back on again.

 

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The end result .......................

 

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Spot on alignment :thumbs:

 

Right that's the easy bit done more in just a mo ...............................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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For my next trick I would like to replicate this ......

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Yer that looks easy NOT!!

O well onwards

 

2 bits of 60x60x2mm box

 

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First cut

 

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angle cut

 

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A 6mm spacer plate as 60mm - side walls 2x2mm = 56mm and I need 50mm

 

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holes for spot welds

 

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Clamps

 

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welds

 

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Gives us -

 

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test fit

 

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Yayyy :thumbs:

 

Then a shed load of measuring and angle checking

 

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Can I live with the 0.02 degrees it is out? YES :lol:

 

:sorry:

 

The next bit was a bit involved so I didn't take many photos but after a lot more measuring angle checking, re-checking and  even getting the long suffering Mrs Keyser out to the

Zed Shed to assist in the line up we eventually got it all together by 9:50pm :scare:

 

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Why couldn't Nissan jut build everything square ?

They probably spent millions on R&D and taking into account ackerman angles and bump steer they thought that the top plate should sit at a 4.5 degree front to rear slope with a 15 degree inside to outside angle while sitting between to arms that are at 102 degrees from the chassis rail :shutup::wacko:

 

Any way today I get to do it all again for the other side and hopefully finish the chassis table / Jig as the last bits arrived yesterday afternoon :thumbs:

 

I should also point out that after that piece of engineering I'm feeling pretty smug.

 

During The War - I was smug git as well :lol::thumbs:

 

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:lol:

 

 

Keyser

 

Maximum Effort :thumbs:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Evening lords n ladies,

 

So what did we do today then? You may be surprised to learn I've been in the Zed Shed - or maybe not ?? :lol:

 

As I said the last bits arrived to finish the Jig today I also purchased a 25mm drill bit :clap:

Using said 25mm bit I made these out of the strongest piece of angle iron I had,

 

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The new arrivals

 

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Then to improve the welding a Mask service was in order

 

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and what do you know

 

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Add some old pipe and the steel I cut off the box yesterday,

 

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test fit

 

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:thumbs:

 

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Feet :)

 

Fitted

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Now it is on wheels with a load rating of 1.2 Tons

 

But can be levelled in any location

 

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Just need some cross members - I have a cunning plan that involves dropping in to see a mate next week to sort those.

 

 

 

More in a mo ..................................

 

 

 

 

 

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So first job for the Jig is to help me get the second front chassis rail identical to the one I made yesterday,

 

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It's great :)

 

Then 2 hours to get these bits

 

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Out of this

 

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Clamp the two sides together

 

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Mark it up and weld in the first pin

 

 

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Add the next two pins and see if the match

 

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O yes :thumbs:

 

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Angles and hieght are good too :)

 

Only problem is I didn't clamp the rail while I welded in the last 2 pins!

I paid the price - it heat warped

 

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Not a major drama I'll either heat it with the oxy or just put a relief cut in straighten it and weld it back up again. It happened behind the cross-member mounts so it's just a bit more faffing to get it right.

 

Then tested the moveable Jig - by moving it :lol: 

 

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That's it for the weekend, Off shopping for a new chop saw now as the bearings started to go in mine today - The cost never ends!! :scare:

 

Keyser

 

Maximum Effort :thumbs:

 

 

 

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No real updates to add this weekend as I was sorting out my new practical car

 

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:lol:  :thumbs:  

 

But all the new panels have arrived,

 

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Unfortunately they turned out to be self assembly :wacko:  :lol: 

 

More when/if I get out of the GT-R   :lol: 

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31 minutes ago, Ebized said:

It was only a matter of time........

 

Sam's car found a good home then :thumbs:

 

I like to think that @Sam Mcgoo was just holding it for me, checking everything was spot on and then it just took him a long while to detail it before I could collected :lol::thumbs: 

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nice daily, would love one of these!

 

I do see an issue with it though. You're going to spend so much time hooning around in it that i fear the Popz build will be delayed! I think its best for you and the community if i take it off your hands for a bit, you know, just so you can focus ! :lol: 

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