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If it came like that it would have been. Imagine that at 50k.....But they got scared. Best saving the money and get 235! or 135i and tune to 390bhp. No need to spunk money unless its the rumored go faster 390 version

my brother was dissapointed too. Best hang on for the future. Right now in 2019 people are still afraid to release anything close to groundbreaking. While its different and good see some new cars. The scaling down is a bit safe. To get remotely close to the FT-1 youll need new front wings, new front bumper, new hood, new rear wings and a retractable spoiler all designed by an indy company. By then you might as well grab the ball and go home. Vaydor G35 anyone? Better yet save your money. Or get a Z4.

that transformation is kind of depressing. No more ft-1 pics please. That bonnet is supra esque. Long.

you want air to get to those brakes or they might overheat like the TTS/TTRS. Flaking calipers lol. Weight saving too

ooopss someones going to the naughty step

What happened to the brexit thread? You should reopen it

dont bother, we know what the result will be. They sold 1723 so far in 12 months and new dealers are opening up in Australia and Japan. cant that bad looking even Americans want it in US but it aint happening cuz Renault. Im not a huge fan of Renault, but its good too see them go against the grain. Market says dont build a mid range sports car as it wont sell great Hey each to their own lol I think its a nice car. The front is somewhat different from any modern car and goes back to the original car. 4C looks nice too. The interior blows away the 4C. Very nicely done. Just the screen maybe should be integrated with the dash

The front is paying homage to the original. Not everyones cup, but retaining a retrostyle. Hey not everyone is going to like it. Besides while all the other manufacturers are playing it safe good on them to design something that looks different from anything on the road. Looks are subjective and its got good feedback from the critics. Top gear car of the year and finalist for car of the year at Geneva 2019. A lot of people dont like the 370Z nismo mark 2 look because its trying too hard to be a supercar. So you cant win. I rather a different design which is the japanese way than a standard audi a5 mk 1 look. Each to their own I guess. 4c probably has a race exhaust. These will need a custom exhaust. Funny how all the jap sports cars are muted to meet stringent requirements. But germans like my bros 911 are loud from factory.

Im glad the Japanese dont stick to conventional design tbh. Lets see some outside the box stuff. Hopefully more stuff comes out pushing boundaries. Even though they changed it a lot from ft-1

so does the 4C have road presence? Or MX5

Wont be an issue if done right. Around the track its a no brainer. Thank USA down to Europe thered be no Z since the 350

Okay we,ll reconvene in 18-24 months if there is at least a concept and/or announcement! Officially We,ll leave it to the car gods to decide its faith! I remain positive even if it may be the final iteration. Thats if it gets past the boardroom onto the design floor.

vision GT to R-50. But I guess vision gt was supposed to be fully electric?? Maybe not a GTR but a show of the future in just design terms But they decided to stick with the current engine and slap £750,000 price tag.

Understandable!! but a bold statement judging by the forums and comments on many videos. No one as in not enough people want a 400Z. We,ll see.

Well after flooring it in my cute little run around battery drains. Only charges up from regen braking and coming off the gas using engine braking. Youd need a much more capable hybrid battery for any sports car. Sport ev best keep that in Gran Turismo games A sport leaf maybe not. But in a sports car for the future It could be a thing if you really want to keep petrol engine alive a little longer via hybrid battery

Prioritising the Juke and Qashqai I understand. The qashqai I was referring to UK. The Juke refresh will come soon im sure. With 800+ engineers and the limited amount of models it shouldn't really be an issue to refresh all models simultaneously. Youre saying theres no new Z because a lack of evidence to suggest so. Which is fine. I hear what youre saying from a business point of view. The market is bad but it didnt stop Toyota or BMW. I dont think itll stop Nissan. Ive been on numerous sites forums all people want is a refresh that's reasonably affordable. Thats America though. Im not saying Nissan look at the forums but it might not happen if theres isnt enough demand or enthusiasm for it. Then again its not up to just the consumer.

If it were a currency ious would be fine. Go check it out.

SUV and 4 door I agree before anything else. And Full Electric. For infiniti. Nissan can go down the petrol hybrid route for the next decade. That means new engines which will cost but show they are moving towards better emissions and better fuel consumption They will be a lot more proactive than some companies still running pure petrol and diesel in New models

The Qashqai sells in the top 10 of most sold cars. So more than Juke. A full scale model with possible interior. Power train and other components can come in later. For concept you dont need an engine

So what projection for sales in EU would be justified? We know USA will buy a certain amount if its reasonable I think you can start on other aspects without having tech in place

I think it already has. The timeline matches when the original 350z and 370Z released. Its just deciding what Engine and tech to go with. Realistically the production cannot go on for another 10 years because of the rate of the world economy and changing technology. . I also don't expect them to sell much more than the Alpine if the price is 50k....so probably a projection of 1000 to 2000 units per year. Also depends on the engine and running costs. I think a huge factor would be running costs and insurance over design and features. A V6 alone might see similar under 1000 units a year shifted after the initial hype. So they might have to offer a 4 pot version to offset the low sales in Europe. Speaking to sales at one dealer, looks like people are trading up a lot less, holding onto what they've got, even when people do explore options and they most of the time don't follow through. There's still a market for it. Which I why I believe it will come if not for the european market for other markets in general. The below is interesting from a BMW perspective. I noticed 2008 during the crash. Then came the shape change and redesign which reignited interested then after 2 years started reducing. 13,000 is very good! But thats BMW. Having the 2 liter option may have boosted sales. But then it dissolves the Z heritage a bit BMW Z4 2017 244 2016 3.006 2015 4.093 2014 5.373 2013 5.970 2012 7.508 2011 9.417 2010 13.153 2009 13.497 2008 6.116 2007 15.281 2006 15.844 2005 14.137 2004 18.452 2003 22.973

Infinity are heading this way anyway. Those super electric cars to rival tesla will probably come much later on after the basics have come to the market. IE SUV and family sedans

yeah my bad 7k in Europe for 350z compared to 2k for the 370z. Even though Alpines a european car looks set to hit close to 2000 for first year. About right for modern day niche market. God bless America. Down to Europe or UK alone this car gets canned.

Europe or worldwide?