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dont bother, we know what the result will be. They sold 1723 so far in 12 months and new dealers are opening up in Australia and Japan. cant that bad looking even Americans want it in US but it aint happening cuz Renault. Im not a huge fan of Renault, but its good too see them go against the grain. Market says dont build a mid range sports car as it wont sell great Hey each to their own lol I think its a nice car. The front is somewhat different from any modern car and goes back to the original car. 4C looks nice too. The interior blows away the 4C. Very nicely done. Just the screen maybe should be integrated with the dash

The front is paying homage to the original. Not everyones cup, but retaining a retrostyle. Hey not everyone is going to like it. Besides while all the other manufacturers are playing it safe good on them to design something that looks different from anything on the road. Looks are subjective and its got good feedback from the critics. Top gear car of the year and finalist for car of the year at Geneva 2019. A lot of people dont like the 370Z nismo mark 2 look because its trying too hard to be a supercar. So you cant win. I rather a different design which is the japanese way than a standard audi a5 mk 1 look. Each to their own I guess. 4c probably has a race exhaust. These will need a custom exhaust. Funny how all the jap sports cars are muted to meet stringent requirements. But germans like my bros 911 are loud from factory.

Im glad the Japanese dont stick to conventional design tbh. Lets see some outside the box stuff. Hopefully more stuff comes out pushing boundaries. Even though they changed it a lot from ft-1

so does the 4C have road presence? Or MX5

Wont be an issue if done right. Around the track its a no brainer. Thank USA down to Europe thered be no Z since the 350

Okay we,ll reconvene in 18-24 months if there is at least a concept and/or announcement! Officially We,ll leave it to the car gods to decide its faith! I remain positive even if it may be the final iteration. Thats if it gets past the boardroom onto the design floor.

vision GT to R-50. But I guess vision gt was supposed to be fully electric?? Maybe not a GTR but a show of the future in just design terms But they decided to stick with the current engine and slap £750,000 price tag.

Understandable!! but a bold statement judging by the forums and comments on many videos. No one as in not enough people want a 400Z. We,ll see.

Well after flooring it in my cute little run around battery drains. Only charges up from regen braking and coming off the gas using engine braking. Youd need a much more capable hybrid battery for any sports car. Sport ev best keep that in Gran Turismo games A sport leaf maybe not. But in a sports car for the future It could be a thing if you really want to keep petrol engine alive a little longer via hybrid battery

Prioritising the Juke and Qashqai I understand. The qashqai I was referring to UK. The Juke refresh will come soon im sure. With 800+ engineers and the limited amount of models it shouldn't really be an issue to refresh all models simultaneously. Youre saying theres no new Z because a lack of evidence to suggest so. Which is fine. I hear what youre saying from a business point of view. The market is bad but it didnt stop Toyota or BMW. I dont think itll stop Nissan. Ive been on numerous sites forums all people want is a refresh that's reasonably affordable. Thats America though. Im not saying Nissan look at the forums but it might not happen if theres isnt enough demand or enthusiasm for it. Then again its not up to just the consumer.

If it were a currency ious would be fine. Go check it out.

SUV and 4 door I agree before anything else. And Full Electric. For infiniti. Nissan can go down the petrol hybrid route for the next decade. That means new engines which will cost but show they are moving towards better emissions and better fuel consumption They will be a lot more proactive than some companies still running pure petrol and diesel in New models

The Qashqai sells in the top 10 of most sold cars. So more than Juke. A full scale model with possible interior. Power train and other components can come in later. For concept you dont need an engine

So what projection for sales in EU would be justified? We know USA will buy a certain amount if its reasonable I think you can start on other aspects without having tech in place

I think it already has. The timeline matches when the original 350z and 370Z released. Its just deciding what Engine and tech to go with. Realistically the production cannot go on for another 10 years because of the rate of the world economy and changing technology. . I also don't expect them to sell much more than the Alpine if the price is 50k....so probably a projection of 1000 to 2000 units per year. Also depends on the engine and running costs. I think a huge factor would be running costs and insurance over design and features. A V6 alone might see similar under 1000 units a year shifted after the initial hype. So they might have to offer a 4 pot version to offset the low sales in Europe. Speaking to sales at one dealer, looks like people are trading up a lot less, holding onto what they've got, even when people do explore options and they most of the time don't follow through. There's still a market for it. Which I why I believe it will come if not for the european market for other markets in general. The below is interesting from a BMW perspective. I noticed 2008 during the crash. Then came the shape change and redesign which reignited interested then after 2 years started reducing. 13,000 is very good! But thats BMW. Having the 2 liter option may have boosted sales. But then it dissolves the Z heritage a bit BMW Z4 2017 244 2016 3.006 2015 4.093 2014 5.373 2013 5.970 2012 7.508 2011 9.417 2010 13.153 2009 13.497 2008 6.116 2007 15.281 2006 15.844 2005 14.137 2004 18.452 2003 22.973

Infinity are heading this way anyway. Those super electric cars to rival tesla will probably come much later on after the basics have come to the market. IE SUV and family sedans

yeah my bad 7k in Europe for 350z compared to 2k for the 370z. Even though Alpines a european car looks set to hit close to 2000 for first year. About right for modern day niche market. God bless America. Down to Europe or UK alone this car gets canned.

Europe or worldwide?

Its definitely headed that way towards electric or at least petrol hybrid. Even my current run around was criticized at the time for many of its shortcomings. Funny that its headed back that way now but towards full electric. A new engine and tech will cost a lot for something that might not do well. I had a look at the alpine figures and looks like they have sold 1500 so far. I read it was originally a limited production. Looks like that may change due to increased demand. A reworked q60 engine with some hybrid tech could drive the price up. Its not worth them building a completely new engine when they most likely wont sell many. You cant really compare BMW with Nissan. The M3 was always going to sell loads. Its a BMW. Its a badge. Its marketed better and has a well established reputation in Europe and UK are one of the biggest buyers. At the height of 350z sales it sold 2100 in one year in Europe. The 370 never did more than 1500 or so in 1 year in Europe since 2010. So both cars werent great. The Alpine looks set to hit 1800 for 2018. The ULEZ will be fine for now. Sooner or later they may enforce lower emissions. Right now the 370Z is okay because its not older than 2000. Im sure overnight that can change to high displacement vehicles. Which will be mean less supercars in central london. Unless youre from UAE or Saudi/Kuwait and coming to spend big bucks. Those high tariffs wont affect those people. Its okay for them to release a petrol engine but I dont think 10 years will be viable for production. Things will change quickly. Maybe despite the costs a hybrid petrol engine is the way to go. It works brilliantly and does assist the engine well. If done right. With added turbo it would add a lot of torque to the engine especially when the battery is fully charged. It would be more emissions friendly but drive costs up.

Welcome dude. Ever get to any of the passes in your country? Some scary cliffs. Also 8 mins is a tough ask for even the 370Z but might be possible with some Mods.

Nope why?

The Z will continue to be a v6 im sure albeit a smaller displacement. The not so popular 370Z will probably be the last naturally aspirated Z. People may realise the new Z may be fast but its very different from predecessors. Im glad Nissan experimented at SEMA. Im sure that will be the test bed for them. Hopefully they can work on the engine effeciency and sort the exhaust note out. A youtuber suggested they should make it as a final performance special. I say dont bother. Axe the 370z production altogether this year. 69 plate heritage edition and leave it there.. The base 400z should be at least 400bhp. A 450 bhp GT version to rival m cars and a 475-490 bhp lighter go faster nismo capable of 3.5 seconds. Side by side will kill the TTRS on the track. How do you feel about that kind of power in a RWD. Or should it be AWD with a drift setting? (added costs and weight) The Q60 in its current form should be scrapped in favour of the new Z while infiniti replace the q50 and q60 with a fully electric alternative by 2021. Q60 black S should be scrapped in favour of a possible super Z or r36 concept as it has the hybrid tech developed by Renault formula 1 team which could be used in the new engine The next Tokyo Motor show is at the end of this year. Will a new Z be ready at concept stage? Seems 50/50 to me. A tokyo concept and geneva/detroit reveal seems very quick to me. The new design should pay homage to the 240Z in the same way the Alpine has to the original car. Or should they stick with the current trend? Interior wise the alpine was nice. But the screen should probably integrate into the dash of the new Z

Hi all, my brother is looking to import a low mileage taken care of 240sx Nissan with ac/sunroof/manual. Does anyone know any specialist within and around m25 he can use. Further afield is also fine

I think this car will be scrapped as they are moving to fully electric in 2021