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It seems I got my Gyeon fanboy on today; I did buy stuff other than Gyeon too*, honest. Anywho, the left hand side of that picture is destined for the Z this time. The foam unfortunately has arrived a day (well, a morning actually) too late to use this time and the Cancoat will be used on something at some point. I didn't just buy that without a plan in mind at all. No, I wouldn't do that. Not me.... On the topic of Cancoat though, this is the new, new, new, new version (I think we're on 4 now... possibly), and there's been some changes. You get a cloth with it now. A cloth! Oh and there are some less exciting changes too, most noticeably is this; That's right there's more liquid! Oh right, yeah, it's also no longer an aerosol. So that resolves at least two of the things that made it a bit of a pain to use. The aerosol can has now been replaced with; Two thumb-trigger spray heads instead. The "can" is now a aluminium bottle (similar to those that a certain retailer will charge you a fortune for, by the way...) with a screw lid. Standard procedure with any new detailing product will lead you to removing the lid and having a good sniff, like I did. You'll find inside a clear liquid that smells a lot like Auto Smart Tardis (that is to say that all you can smell is the solvents). Now, being a thumb-trigger operated spray rather than an aerosol, this version should be considerably easier to control/minimise any over-spray. It also means that it should be considerably easier to use in less controlled environments, and in smaller spaces like a garages. It could potentially even make it usable outside, however i still wouldn't recommend that if at all avoidable due to the complete lack of control you have over that environment. Gyeon have also addressed the notorious clogging issue - I don't know if this solves the issue yet, but I will report back when I get round to using this - see if you can spot what that solution is; Anyway, the plan for the Z currently revolves very much around coatings - View for the glass, C5 for the wheels (and headlights), quite probably Nanolex on the trim, and... er... "something else" for the bodywork. (*I also bought 2 foam lance gauzes. They aren't Gyeon branded).

They do when they hit the wall you've just thrown them at. [/VOE]

For those struggling to keep up with the infrequent updates, a brief summary so far for you; Auto Finesse Iron Out beat Wolf's Decon (which had beaten AM Details Iron, which had beaten Koch Chemie. Something also beat Nanolex, I forget what though). Car Chem Revolt beat Gyeon Iron. Dodo Juice Ferrous Dueller beat GTechniq W6. CarPro Iron X Snow Soap is s**t. Bilt Hamber Korrosol beats CarPro Iron X (which had beaten CarPro Iron X LS). Therefore the remaining semi-final contestants are; Auto Finesse Iron Out. Car Chem Revolt. Dodo Juice Ferrous Dueller. Bilt Hamber Korrosol.

I've only have one other new (as in not previously tested) decontamination product to test today so I'm going to pit a newbie against a previous winner. Luckily this just happens to coincide (purely by chance, obviously...) with a much anticipated comparison. For those of you keeping up, you've probably guessed today's contestants already. For those of you struggling, here's a picture; BAck to the more standard test this time; wheels were both washed with shampoo and Wheel Woolies, rinsed and left to dry for 10-15 minutes. Iron X took the left wheel, Korrosol took the right wheel. After 2-3 minutes this happened; Whilst Iron X did this; Both were left for 5 minutes in total and then rinsed. The wheels were left to dry for another 10 minutes or so before our contestants swapped over for round 2; Korrosol took the left wheel, Iron X took the right. They were again left to dwell for 5 minutes, after 2-3 minutes this happened; Iron X; Compared to Korrosol; Which is fairly conclusive. Korrosol wins. Some other observations - Korrosol has a very sweet scent. I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a nice smell, but compared to Iron X it absolutely delightful! I also quite like Bilt Hamber spray heads; the trigger is just the right size, shape and feel to use. the spray pattern is pretty much in the Goldilocks band too. In terms of price, 1 litre sizes, Korrosol is 4p cheaper than Car Chem Revolt (£13.95 to £13.99 respectively). Oh, but there's good news; Polished Bliss now sell Bilt Hamber stuff, and they sell Korrosol for £13, making it a whole 99p cheaper than Revolt... before postage. PB also sell Korrosol in 5 litre size for £52, compared to Car Chem's £47.99 for 5 litres of Revolt (plus £4.99 delivery charge). As close as makes no difference to the same price then.

Basically yes, that is my conclusion. I can imagine it being quite useless as a... well, anything actually.

A plan has been formulated for the next LSP and the prep is under way. In the mean time, I believe I was in the midst of a fallout remover test, thus... Starting with some filthy wheels that haven't been cleaned in 4 months; The back was even worse. Now my usual procedure is to wash the wheels first, but there's going to be a slight deviation on this occasion because I'll be trying out CarPro Snow Soap. This is marketed as; (As per CYC) So I bought a sample to try as a shampoo. Then I read then CarPro website; Now maybe I'm a sceptic, but I read that as "it works like Iron X when you use Iron X with it"... CarPro go on to explain; So I made a decision to use my 50ml sample to make up 350ml (that'll be 6:1 for those of you counting... or 1:7 if you prefer) of solution in a foaming spray bottle. I then decided to test it's decontamination abilities by using IXSS on one half of the wheel, a normal shampoo on the other half and then following up with Iron X. So, 50ml sample, diluted into 350ml solution, sprayed on between the "Forged" (inclusive) and the last spoke before the "RAYS Engineering" bit of the wheel - otherwise known as the left hand side of the wheel below. I left it to dwell for a minute or so whilst I tried to figure out if any of the colouring was iron reaction or just the fact that the solution just happens to be that same reaction colour anyway (it's actually a lot closer to that deep red/purple colour when it's foamed up despite it looking very bright pink in the bottle). It was then agitated using a large Wheel Woolie. First observations; it stinks like fallout remover. Maybe not quite as strong a smell, but the scent is the same. If you're thinking "well, if it makes a decent shampoo then why not use this anyway?", that's why not! It's not pleasant. Secondly, there's no discernible reaction from this, so at this point I'm not convinced by it's decontamination abilities. It is quite well lubricated though, it's not the slickest shampoo ever but it's far from the worst too. It foams up quite well too, in case that's important to you. It still stinks though. After agitating the IXSS half of the wheel, the entire thing was then rinsed which left me with this; Compared to the untreated and only rinsed section; And some 50/50's; So it's not too bad at cleaning then. The other half was then washed with a normal shampoo (just the other half, for clarity). Normal shampoo on the left of the spoke, IXSS on the right; It's a fairly adequate shampoo in terms of cleaning. Again, it's not the worst I've ever used but it's not a patch on my go to products. But that's only one of it's uses, so what about decontamination then? Well, let's find out. The wheel was left to dry for a few minutes and then Iron X was applied to the whole wheel, left to work for 5 minutes and then rinsed off. After 2-3 minutes, it Iron X had done this, IXSS side; Compared to the normal shampoo side; So... er... yeah... not a great deal in it. It certainly seems to me that IXSS does very little to absolutely nothing to remove fallout. IXSS is reasonably priced, it's only a couple of quid more expensive than Car Chem's shampoo in 500ml size. Oh, except that at 1:8, you'll be getting no more than 4 litres solution out of IXSS, compared to the 1:1000 (500 litres of solution) from Car Chem. And that's just their standard shampoo. If you go for the slightly more expensive Car Chem shampoo, you're comparing 4 litres at £10 to 950 litres at £11! Maybe it's better as a snow foam then... well, there's the other thing mentioned on the CarPro website; So 400ml per application. Or, about £7.99 worth. And I'm not in the least bit convinced by it's iron removing claims. Suffice it to say, I won't be wasting any more money on this. Oh, but there was one thing that came out of this. Seeing as Iron X had such a poor showing last time out I decided it'd be good to double check the fallout removal, so I did this after the Iron X; There wasn't a huge amount, but there were a few spots here and there still (on both IXSS and the normal shampoo sides); http://i232.photobuc...zpsaliogk7z.jpg So on the bright side, Iron X did a much better job all round today. It may just be justified in going through to the next round. Which is handy as that brings me onto this afternoon's test quite nicely. Expect more later.

Drifting is definitely not legal on motorways.

Nah, just tell them about the admins.

Not doubting the quality of his, but those prices.... I wouldn't recommend the place I got this from. The finished product is quality but their website suggests a 2 week lead time (later told that's 4 weeks for commissions, which is fair enough but nice if they said that outright!). It took 8 months to actually materialise though and I had to chase them constantly to get anything out of them. I've gone elsewhere for my Shadowtrooper whilst I consider where to get my Stormtrooper to personalise.

I have a Shadowtrooper in the pipeline. I do have a job though.

This.

I concur. And I did too. But this;

Time to take the car to RTP to test their services for a properly informed opinion! Sorry Dan, couldn't resist! He's tried but he's crap at writing specific subject titles so he can't book it in.

I've only got two weeks off work, I'm not sure I'll have time to finish mine.

Just chuck it inside the windscreen like all the other cool kids. Apparently nothing looks better than numberplates cluttering up dashboards.

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You cost peanuts for what you do! Polished Bliss on the other hand, they're up North... Me (next week). And that's exactly what I'll be doing... to my own car.

This brand has been about since 2012 at least. Ask yourself again why you haven't heard of it before now with that in mind. Keep your money in your wallet for all the dozens of products that are worth spending on, Stu. FTFY.

You rang? As Stu said, get some proper protection on them when they're tidy again. Or, send them to me, I'll polish and protect them. I'll even take the wheels as payment for this service.

It'll never last. The common sense that is, it's so rare these days it should be considered a superpower.

Did someone say beading? It's relevant because that's blue Velvet too. Oh, and Stu, actual, proper, real, natural beads too!

Pearoast. http://www.350z-uk.com/topic/92033-explain-your-username/

As someone who is heavily involved with one of the biggest marketing corporations on the planet, I can promise you that there is more to marketing than just spending money on adverts. Tesla market themselves just as much as Apple or BMW, they just have a different strategy.

I've got probably about a third of a can left from mine after doing two coats (I think I did 2) but I did have quite a bit of wastage due to my issues with the previous delivery method. Assuming this has actually been resolved this time and with a bit of care and attention I'd say you could easily cover the Z 4 times, possibly even 5 coats at a push.