zebedy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Whats wrong with bl006y people these days. Just put my MGZS 180 16v on gumtree and already nearly fell for a scammer. He was interested in the car, willing to pay the full amount without seeing it as he worked on a ship, would have sent an "agent" around to collect the car. all he wanted was my paypal address. - Ok I thought, No problem. Then......Low and behold I get another interested party. But he worked on an oil rig. Same story, so I asked him to do a bank transfer. He said he did not have a bank account (working on an oil rig??) ye right. Insisted on paypal. Once I told him i did not have a paypal account, he kindly sent me instruction as to how to open one. What a nice chap. I said no. He can pay his agent and the agent can pay me in cash on collection. Reaction - FU Time waster. WTF???? And so on. Four more people with similar stories. What is wrong with people in this day and age. There are only a few of us hard working, honest people left in the world I tell you. Pissssed oof isnt strong enough about how I feel right now. Zeb ps. sorry for the rant. Anyone else been in a similar situation. I was lucky enough to have seen through this, others Im sure would not be so lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Gumtree is a well known to be full of scammers. :rant: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 wake up. Realised it was a scammer from the phrase ' full amount without seeing it as he worked on a ship ' You're advertising for free, can't expect perfect customers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hensh65 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 What are they actually going to do with your paypal address though? given if they did transfer anything you would wait till it has been drawn out into your bank and clear before handing the car over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 And then PP put your account into negative, and chase you into the courts for the money. Tbh, just don't use Gumtree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 doesn't have a bank account, but has a paypal account... whats the paypal account linked to then, the spare change in his pocket?!? As Grundy's already said I read that as 'pay full amount without seeing it' SCAM 'working on a ship' LIKELY SCAM ''agent' to collect car' DEFINITE SCAM 'paypal only' DEFINITE SCAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) What are they actually going to do with your paypal address though? given if they did transfer anything you would wait till it has been drawn out into your bank and clear before handing the car over. No they rely on you letting the goods go when the balance goes up then they withdraw the funds - happened to someone locally over a set of brakes, he transferred the funds in front of him left with the parts, 2 days latter the money has gone and can't be drawn on - he should have been more careful though as the guy down here found his home address - would have loved to see the scammers face when he answered the door Edited October 8, 2014 by Keyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Not to be rude but you spell Scammers with a capital S like you have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyZ Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I thought the whole idea of PayPal was its secure? I've never used it and after all these stories I have no intention to Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I just feel sorry for people who actually do work on oil rigs or ships and need a friend to buy a car on their behalf. As soon as I read the sentences about being in one of those locations, I delete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KosmiK Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Within 10 minutes of listing my old car on ebay, I had an email from some Russian guy who wanted to buy the car for his daughter and was going to send his "mover" to collect it. I just ignored it and got a similar email the very next day from the same guy. Got a legit sale in the end though thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 working offshore is only a likely scam in my book, not definite... being willing to pay the asking price without even looking at the car - now that's a scam - and also referring to someone as an 'agent' stinks of scam as well. if you were a legit offshore buyer, its simple - just phone up and explain the situation over the phone, just doing that would give me so much more confidence in a potential buyer - and offer cold hard cash on collection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 working offshore is only a likely scam in my book, not definite... being willing to pay the asking price without even looking at the car - now that's a scam - and also referring to someone as an 'agent' stinks of scam as well. if you were a legit offshore buyer, its simple - just phone up and explain the situation over the phone, just doing that would give me so much more confidence in a potential buyer - and offer cold hard cash on collection! Yeah, the words "friend" "brother" "buddy" etc would give more of a sense of security. Ie, an endearing term towards the person they're trusting to purchase a car for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 working offshore is only a likely scam in my book, not definite... being willing to pay the asking price without even looking at the car - now that's a scam - and also referring to someone as an 'agent' stinks of scam as well. if you were a legit offshore buyer, its simple - just phone up and explain the situation over the phone, just doing that would give me so much more confidence in a potential buyer - and offer cold hard cash on collection! Yeah, the words "friend" "brother" "buddy" etc would give more of a sense of security. Ie, an endearing term towards the person they're trusting to purchase a car for them I agree dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I got scammers from Ebay/Autotrader and not to mention Gumtree all the time I tried to sell a car.just have to google it if in doubts then cash in hand which doesn't allow to much room for mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Unless the cash is counterfeit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 or they steal the car on the test drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valy Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 that is why I mention not a lot room for mistakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seasider Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 They know that most people who are selling a car privately are often willing to do things they wouldn't normally do in order to get a sale. One tip is if you suspect a scam always reply to emails and texts with a request 'to call' and 'discuss the matter' not everyone can spot a scam from a few words but hopefully most people would be able to tell if someone was a 'plonker puller' from a conversation. Ask yourself - who really would want to buy your car unseen, based upon an e-mail dialogue? Cleared funds or local currency are the only two acceptable forms of payment in my book - the seller not the buyer sets the rules! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatooandy67 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) They know that most people who are selling a car privately are often willing to do things they wouldn't normally do in order to get a sale. One tip is if you suspect a scam always reply to emails and texts with a request 'to call' and 'discuss the matter' not everyone can spot a scam from a few words but hopefully most people would be able to tell if someone was a 'plonker puller' from a conversation. Ask yourself - who really would want to buy your car unseen, based upon an e-mail dialogue? Cleared funds or local currency are the only two acceptable forms of payment in my book - the seller not the buyer sets the rules! +1 especially the cleared funds or local currency No cash = no sale In my book I treat everyone the same ... I trust no one until I know otherwise especially selling my car to a stranger I don't care if I offend, rather lose a sale than lose ££££ to a scammer, last time I sold a car privately I wanted to see cash before we went on a test drive the message of you break it you buy it was made very clear hence the reason I usually trade in at dealers, may not get as much sometimes but don't have to deal with chancers Edited October 8, 2014 by tatooandy67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexdax Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 nice to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Be very careful with adverts and Gumtree...I responded to an advert for a 300ZX back in 2012 and that was fraught with trouble (members from 2012 might recall my posts about the car being impounded etc). It turned out to be a great Zed until I crashed it and wrote it off in February but the saga still continues as the previous owner and I have recently become an item....so use Gumtree at your peril haha! S. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zedd Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 What are they actually going to do with your paypal address though? given if they did transfer anything you would wait till it has been drawn out into your bank and clear before handing the car over. No they rely on you letting the goods go when the balance goes up then they withdraw the funds - happened to someone locally over a set of brakes, he transferred the funds in front of him left with the parts, 2 days latter the money has gone and can't be drawn on - he should have been more careful though as the guy down here found his home address - would have loved to see the scammers face when he answered the door Can't understand how you could pay via PayPal and then withdraw the funds 2 days later. Surely there must be some kind of dispute procedure to go through first, if a legit person wasn't happy with the sale, and they wanted their money back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Be very careful with adverts and Gumtree...I responded to an advert for a 300ZX back in 2012 and that was fraught with trouble (members from 2012 might recall my posts about the car being impounded etc). It turned out to be a great Zed until I crashed it and wrote it off in February but the saga still continues as the previous owner and I have recently become an item....so use Gumtree at your peril haha! S. "Selling a car like a boss": Advertises car on free site ~ sells car ~ gets the fit girl who bought it ~ Winning!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebedy Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Exactly. I cannot understand either how i can be scammed as paypal offer a guarantee to all its users. Bytheway the capital f was intentional. I cant swear on here. Lol. Anyway had some genuine contacts so theres light. Its just not gumtree ive had it on piston heads and autotrader so theres no escape other than being abit savvy when selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.