rtbiscuit Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 but a top 5 poll just becomes a popularity contest, and not neccessarily advocates the best tyre, just the ones with the most users. and i know this last comment might get flamed, but alot of people on here don;t actually know how to drive properly anyway, and what they put across as in informed opinion is wrong from the offset. alot think they know; but they actually don;t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 but a top 5 poll just becomes a popularity contest, and not neccessarily advocates the best tyre, just the ones with the most users. and i know this last comment might get flamed, but alot of people on here don;t actually know how to drive properly anyway, and what they put across as in informed opinion is wrong from the offset. alot think they know; but they actually don;t. +10000000000 I bet fk452 would get ranked above many superior tyre but would actually be as good. Just because the amount of people who use them. You cant blame them great tyre at a great price but its not the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 but a top 5 poll just becomes a popularity contest, and not neccessarily advocates the best tyre, just the ones with the most users. and i know this last comment might get flamed, but alot of people on here don;t actually know how to drive properly anyway, and what they put across as in informed opinion is wrong from the offset. alot think they know; but they actually don;t. Ok but we're talking about road tyres so we just need some subjective reviews for road tyres, we could have a separate review for track tyres (there might be one - note lack of search function.) Great tyres MPSS MPS2 (now discontinued but you may be able to get them) Goodyear eagle f1a2 ( my faves ) and f1a Continental contisport 3's (now discontinued but you may be able to get them) Good tyres Vreds ultrac sessenta (now discontinued but you may be able to get them) Goodyear eagle f1 GSD3's (now discontinued but you may be able to get them) Toyo t1r (now discontinued but you may be able to get them) Falken fk452 (now discontinued but you may be able to get them) Michellin Pilot sport 3 Uniroyal Rainsport 2 I have used all of them tyres except for the MPSS so thats from my experience. So this is good and thank you for taking the time to post, again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 but a top 5 poll just becomes a popularity contest, and not neccessarily advocates the best tyre, just the ones with the most users. and i know this last comment might get flamed, but alot of people on here don;t actually know how to drive properly anyway, and what they put across as in informed opinion is wrong from the offset. alot think they know; but they actually don;t. +10000000000 I've told you a trillion times about exaggerating!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 most people use road tyres as track tyres, very few invest in proper track rubber unless they are a regular track attendee, or feel they need to grab every last 100th of a second. to be honest unless you're actually racing i think track rubber is a waste of money, going quickly round a track is more about knowing the track and the best way to drive it than it is about the tech. so many people decide they want to go faster on a track day, so they ramp up the power, stick all the latest kit on it. try and build a race car. when they could have made a huge improvement to their time just spending several hours with a good instructor who knows that track. prime example is topgear episode when clarkson raced the german lady in a transit. they both drove the same vehicle, same tyres same everything. and the difference in finish times was huge. if you wanted to add some track tyres it would be the R888's and i think about 4 people on here use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 So does anyone care enough to get a dedicated sticky for road tyres?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 only those running major BHP as they need the extra traction because of the torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 most people use road tyres as track tyres, very few invest in proper track rubber unless they are a regular track attendee, or feel they need to grab every last 100th of a second. to be honest unless you're actually racing i think track rubber is a waste of money, going quickly round a track is more about knowing the track and the best way to drive it than it is about the tech. so many people decide they want to go faster on a track day, so they ramp up the power, stick all the latest kit on it. try and build a race car. when they could have made a huge improvement to their time just spending several hours with a good instructor who knows that track. prime example is topgear episode when clarkson raced the german lady in a transit. they both drove the same vehicle, same tyres same everything. and the difference in finish times was huge. if you wanted to add some track tyres it would be the R888's and i think about 4 people on here use them. Using proper rubber has its own problems though like if you use slicks then you need a way of getting them there and back. Also r888's are expensive and only really work well when hot. You will also most likely need other things like a baffled sump etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Very easy to get 888s warm, and even if they're just mildly tepid they still offer better grip and braking than normal road tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrumbMC Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 but a top 5 poll just becomes a popularity contest, and not neccessarily advocates the best tyre, just the ones with the most users. and i know this last comment might get flamed, but alot of people on here don;t actually know how to drive properly anyway, and what they put across as in informed opinion is wrong from the offset. alot think they know; but they actually don;t. +10000000000 I've told you a trillion times about exaggerating!! Also anyone who thinks this is a good thing to do should avoid posting in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) toyos work alright on a light car but i think they are pants on a heavy car. Yeah I've heard that from some other people as well regarding different cars. But if anyone has used those tyres specifically on the 350z I'd be keen to know. I think what people need to remember is that everyones driving style is different, so different tyres suit different peoples driving styles. also tyres vary in reviews on cars depending on the width and profile. Absolutely, I only stick with the OEM recommend fit and just try to gauge an idea from description, and not taking someone's advice that I've not met before as gospel The other tyre I was looking at was the Continental Conti Sport Contact 2 (edit - SC 5 seems to be the newer SC2/3) . Pirelli have far too many variations to flipping understand at a glance, idiots Edited December 6, 2012 by RobPhoboS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 when i first got the car had falken 452 on it which handled well on the road in summer had them for about 2months then replaced them with Maxxis MA-Z1 which to my supprise are very good (235-40-18 Front, 255-35-18 rear) didnt have any issues, no real under or overstead on a track day at snetterton, and the few drift days having them on the front ive always had the front end where i want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Contisport 5 are meant to have great grip but wear very quickly. Not used them personally as that fact put me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Well I woke up to find I've got a puncture, so new boots it is (whether I like it not!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Avon ZZ3 - Had them on for about a month now, covered about 500 ish miles. So quick write up. So far great in the wet no issues at all even under mildly hard acceleration. Noise, fair bit quieter than the Bridgestone 50's. Dry seem ok but not had much dry use yet, will update as soon as. Snow, seemed ok but need to take it to a quiet car park and test out. Price £560 so fairly happy with that to put new rubber on all 4 corners and as I'm not a Senna wanna be they seem fairly sound so far. Will update as soon as I have a few more miles on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 (crap review here) Supersports on the rear, front's being upgraded soon. 1000000000000 x better than Bridestones (which I'll never use again) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridz Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Had my Zed since October last year, and love every minute driving it. It haves the original Bridgestones on the front and replacement Avons on the rear. Reading all previous threads it seems that mixing tyres on the Zed is best avoided. I can confirm this as even with only driving in the dry, crossing white lines or wet patches on the road instantly bring in the stability control system. Looking at previous threads the consensus seems to be that the best tyres are :- Falken Toyo And lately Goodyear Eagles As I will need to replace my front Bridgestones in the near future, I am faced with the choice of fitting Avon's to the front to achieve tyre compatibility or change all four tyres. So would appreciate any advice please, I am thinking of a total changeout to either the Falken or Toyo's. Regards, Ridz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oj121 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Dont let Ekona read that!! The best tyres at the Michelin Pilot Super Sports. The others are just cheaper. I have a rear set of part worn 452's if you want them (6k miles on normal driving). £???? After having a good chat with Ek im changing all round to the PSS if they dont jump in price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 They really are a bargain at the moment, but if you really can't stretch then give the Falken 453 (NOT 452!) a go as they seem to be pretty good value for what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilMH Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Just a quick update re the Avon ZZ3s - albeit they are on 17s so are unlikely to be a very popular choice . Previously had Bridgestone 050As on 18s. They were very competent. I could not really find anything to complain about with them but they just did not give me the feel I was looking for - hard to define what was missing. Anyway, switched to ZZ3s on 17s and - provided the weather is warm enough - and/or they are warm enough then they are exactly what I had hoped for - plenty of grip and feel, no tramlining (presumably because of the tread pattern) and good ride quality. I have no evidence of this but Avons I have had on previous cars tend to wear quickly so I am expecting the same with these. I also find that the disparity between what they are like warm vs cold is considerable - they feel pretty hard when cold - this is probably to do with the compound because pressures would obviously increase as they heat up. However, I use winter tyres when appropriate. If I went back to 18s I would now choose MPSS, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Hi, Well I need new tyres on the rears. I was initially keen on the Mitchelin Pilot Super Sports but then read they are best for Summer use and really could do with something that works well in the cold and wet too, but not snow. (Car will stay home then and will use a front wheel drive motor !! ) Can anyone make any suggestions please ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 but a top 5 poll just becomes a popularity contest, and not neccessarily advocates the best tyre, just the ones with the most users. and i know this last comment might get flamed, but alot of people on here don;t actually know how to drive properly anyway, and what they put across as in informed opinion is wrong from the offset. alot think they know; but they actually don;t. +10000000000 I've told you a trillion times about exaggerating!! Also anyone who thinks this is a good thing to do should avoid posting in this thread Looks like a dog dragging its ass along the carpet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddcboyle Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Hi, Well I need new tyres on the rears. I was initially keen on the Mitchelin Pilot Super Sports but then read they are best for Summer use and really could do with something that works well in the cold and wet too, but not snow. (Car will stay home then and will use a front wheel drive motor !! ) Can anyone make any suggestions please ? Thanks Supposedly the mpss are good in the wet aswell. Designed for dry but can cope in wet. From what I can gather, rwd sucks in rain unless you look at getting winter tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrumbMC Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I've had SS. For a while now. They are really good in the wet. The outside edge of the tyre is more of a performance or track oriented compound with few tread grooves but the inside 3/4 of the tyre is very good at clearing water. You have to be pushing to unstick them in the wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigheppy Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Hi guys This tyre choice is really winding me up. I have bigger wheels than the standard rays on my GT zed. Fronts are 245/40/19 and the rears 275/35/19. The wheels are mania racing. When I got the car it had falkens all round. The rears were replaced by my garage without consulting me. They put a set of accellera things on for £300. And they are like being on ice! Even in the dry they slide, traction control comes on etc! Fronts have a bit of life still left in them but not much. I have two problems. 1. The tyres seem to wear on the inside edge. 2. I don't want to potentially pay £800-900 to have the same problem. Took the car to kwik fit today and they said kwik fit now owns falken. But they don't make the 275/35 tyre anymore. The cheapest quote was for Pirelli corsa tyres all round with free fit and wheel alignment to make sure they don't scuff again. I'm happy to spend the cash if it solves the problem. I can't enjoy the car at the moment as its scary to drive. Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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