Tax... up again ...grr

[AMT]

Up a tenner from last year! Truely shaftin us

 

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[gangzoom]

Not to rub it in....our household car tax bill for both cars

 

Edited June 7, 2016 by gangzoom

[jumping350]

Goes up every year without fail had a chat with the post office guy last month and asked has it ever gone down, he said in 20 years .............no I wouldn't mind if they actually used it to fix the roads

[RickyZ]

Mine went down last year actually. It was £515 then went to £505. Its back as £515 this year again though It is annoying though how low emissions cars pay hardly anything even though they use the road just as much

[Jetpilot]

Thanks Gangzoom, best justification you could put up for spending £500 a year, small price to pay

[Jetpilot]

It is annoying though how low emissions cars pay hardly anything even though they use the road just as much

 

If its emission based, which it is, its actually fair enough, what isnt fair though is its irrelvant how many miles you do.

[RS8055]

Over here in Luxembourg, I'm surprised that I pay so much less (albeit on a DE)... but it also does not go up thankfully. 6 months is €201 and 12 months is €383. So converted that comes to around:

 

6 months: £158

12 months: £300

[nimz]

Mine went down last year actually. It was £515 then went to £505. Its back as £515 this year again though It is annoying though how low emissions cars pay hardly anything even though they use the road just as much

 

That's the point though, it isn't road tax, it's not money to fix potholes, it's a tax against high emission cars. As enthusiasts it's a pain but personally I think the sooner all 'normal' cars become electric, the better, as long as cars like ours are seen as hobby vehicles with appropriate taxation and limits rather than demonised as a whole.

[Sargara]

Those sound about right for DE prices here RS8005. The OP is just jelous he doesnt pay half-price too

[Juggalo]

Am I right in thinking the government have returned rolling classic status to cars, after greedy labour removed it?

[Jetpilot]

Mine went down last year actually. It was £515 then went to £505. Its back as £515 this year again though It is annoying though how low emissions cars pay hardly anything even though they use the road just as much

 

That's the point though, it isn't road tax, it's not money to fix potholes, it's a tax against high emission cars. As enthusiasts it's a pain but personally I think the sooner all 'normal' cars become electric, the better, as long as cars like ours are seen as hobby vehicles with appropriate taxation and limits rather than demonised as a whole.

 

They wont be able to cope with the lost ved, you can be sure at some point they will be charging low or no emission vehicles to fill the void

[brillomaster]

scrap the road tax, put the duty on fuel instead. that way, Steve in his 320d doing 60,000 miles a year rightly pays more than Fangio in his Ferrari 458 who does 3,000 miles at the weekends.

[Banz]

Goes up every year without fail had a chat with the post office guy last month and asked has it ever gone down, he said in 20 years .............no I wouldn't mind if they actually used it to fix the roads

 

+1 Fix the bloody roads. There are at least 5 massive cracks/bumps on 0.5 mile on one of the major road over here. It's like that all year round. I can't see why the houses on that road is mostly between 750k to 2 million and yet they can't have descent road.

[Ekona]

scrap the road tax, put the duty on fuel instead. that way, Steve in his 320d doing 60,000 miles a year rightly pays more than Fangio in his Ferrari 458 who does 3,000 miles at the weekends.

No thanks, that means I'd pay much more. I like the system as it is

 

Am I right in thinking the government have returned rolling classic status to cars, after greedy labour removed it?

Correct. The 40 year rule is now rolling onwards.

 

That's the point though, it isn't road tax, it's not money to fix potholes, it's a tax against high emission cars. As enthusiasts it's a pain but personally I think the sooner all 'normal' cars become electric, the better, as long as cars like ours are seen as hobby vehicles with appropriate taxation and limits rather than demonised as a whole.

That's the worst thing that could happen! Who do you think would then have to make up for the lost revenue to the coffers? Either electric cars would have to be taxed as normal, or they'd have to massively raise the cost of VED on ICE cars to cover it. That £500 could well become £1K or £2K in the blink of an eye.

[GeorgeW]

scrap the road tax, put the duty on fuel instead. that way, Steve in his 320d doing 60,000 miles a year rightly pays more than Fangio in his Ferrari 458 who does 3,000 miles at the weekends.

 

good idea, but they would most likely keep the tax as well, so its a double hit!

[davey_83]

RevUp and HR problems LOL

[grahamc]

scrap the road tax, put the duty on fuel instead. that way, Steve in his 320d doing 60,000 miles a year rightly pays more than Fangio in his Ferrari 458 who does 3,000 miles at the weekends.

No thanks, that means I'd pay much more. I like the system as it is

 

Am I right in thinking the government have returned rolling classic status to cars, after greedy labour removed it?

Correct. The 40 year rule is now rolling onwards.

 

That's the point though, it isn't road tax, it's not money to fix potholes, it's a tax against high emission cars. As enthusiasts it's a pain but personally I think the sooner all 'normal' cars become electric, the better, as long as cars like ours are seen as hobby vehicles with appropriate taxation and limits rather than demonised as a whole.

That's the worst thing that could happen! Who do you think would then have to make up for the lost revenue to the coffers? Either electric cars would have to be taxed as normal, or they'd have to massively raise the cost of VED on ICE cars to cover it. That £500 could well become £1K or £2K in the blink of an eye.

 

Technically it is already at 2k.... a new GTR is 2k for the first initial registration and then drops back down to £500

[Ekona]

True, but that's almost justifiable on a car costing that much.

Edited June 7, 2016 by Ekona

[Banz]

If you can afford a GTR then I'm guessing the road tax isn't an issue. Sure it's still a rip off.

[KyleR]

Electric cars will be taxed from next year depending on price, which makes more sense than the current system.

[Ekona]

@Banz: See, I don't think it is, not really.

 

Paying a tax on a tax on petrol annoys the snot out of me, but a one off cost to use my car every year? Nah, I can live with that.

Edited June 7, 2016 by Ekona

[delz0r]

1809 Euro for 12 months in Ireland. I can't feel sorry for anyone paying ~500 pound .

[gangzoom]

 

They wont be able to cope with the lost ved, you can be sure at some point they will be charging low or no emission vehicles to fill the void

 

EVs also dont have to any fuel duty, not unless they tax electricity which will put up prices for everything. 1/4 of the miles i did last year also count at buissness miles, and HMRC pay 45p per mile even for EVs. If i did more buissness miles HMRC would end up paying 100% of the running costs!!! Infact am sure people are making money from HMRC by using EVs to do big miles, its not uncommon to see 1year old Tesla's been sold with 15K on the clock.

 

EVs only maks up 4% of new car sales at present but when the fleet market catches on to the potential savings the treasury will have to re-write the rule book.

Edited June 7, 2016 by gangzoom

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Edited June 7, 2016 by 370Ad

[gangzoom]

^^Don't forget the 2k initial lump sum for high CO2 cars. The idea i suspect is to deter people from buying in the first place.