Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 That's what the garage proposed to the warranty, along with the cost. I was hoping for the walls to be a lot thicker than that, looks like sleeving is the way forward, which is bloody expensive. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxrob Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Sorry to see this mate Real eye opener That block looks fecking dreadful for a 9 year old porker , more like a 30 year old Austin Ekona, 5% failure rate on a prestige car is taking the **** Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyZ Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Long story short - buy a Nissan instead EDIT: Sorry, not trying to sound like a dick, just a joke. Nice motor Edited June 9, 2015 by BobbyZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-B Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I'm just about done with the 240, Send it round & we will fix it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Sooo glad i sold my 911 before this happened to me. I could feel it in my waters that i'd bought a lemon, and that this happening was only a matter of time. Glad you've got a warranty Adrian... at least that takes some of the pain away. Oddly as much as i hated owning my 911, i really want another (or a Cayman). God knows why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Reading some more interesting tech stuff here: http://lnengineering.com/products/watercooled-cylinders-pistons/34-boxster-cayman-911-nickies-inc-96mm-fsr-je-piston-set-inc-rings-pins-clips.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Holy crap, that's flipping awful. I didn't realise what was going on with this. How the heck is it in THAT condition ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Spoke to the previous owner, as expected, he's a nice guy and looked after the car as per the invoices, receipts, service history etc: Here is what he said: "Hi Adrian. That is upsetting and I'm very sorry that you have been landed with such a bill. I have never seen the engine, as it's all tucked away in Porsches and I'm not a mechanic so don't have the ability to look. Is it worse than other cars of the same age? I only just put £1500 or so into it for the service etc. So you transferred the warranty over and they still won't cover any of it?" "I've always been very careful to keep the oil topped up as the guy that sold it to me said these engines use a lot of oil. He said a litre every 1000km is not unusual. Plus the flaring when you start from cold. Sounds like your guys disagree. I've always done whatever work is required and then some - when one rear shocker went I replaced both to ensure no differential in strength. When one coil pack went I replaced all of them for the same reason. It is very disappointing that the engine is like that given I've always exceeded any work required. Would the corrosion/boring lead to breakdown? If so then the warranty would cover it. Once again I'm very sorry but I genuinely did not know about these issues and wouldn't have done until pointed out, or breakdown, which is what the warranty is for." "My apologies again, I feel bad that this has happened. Persevere with the warranty people and hopefully they'll come through. It's what they're supposed to be there for at the end of the day." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwantone Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I've just spoken to our highly qualified Works Metallurgist and he tells me that, excluding stainless steel grades, high alloy steels and low alloy steels are equally susceptible to corrosion. It's a lack of coating (either painting or plating) coupled with a harsh environment which have caused your problems. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Will I ever in my life buy another Porker? Ha! Heard some rumours that the warranty company independent assessor was there to inspect the engine today, so it's waiting game now, hope they will cover the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 German engineering at its finest!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 It's more like Albanian engineering if you ask me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I could probably google this, but I can't be bothered What causes the bore scoring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Just spoke to these guys: http://www.specialistvehiclepreparations.com/blog/porsche-cayman-boxster-911-996-997-engine-rebuild-prices-uk They want £10k + VAT to fully rebuild the engine :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 If you're looking for quotes, these guys are also very good (have built a friends 800odd bhp turbo), just like RPM, great reputation. http://www.nineexcellence.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I assume you've had a look at Hartech's prices? http://www.hartech.org/porsche_996_997_Boxster_engine_failure_repair_rebuilds_prices.html Looking at £6k +VAT for 6x new cylinders. I could probably google this, but I can't be bothered What causes the bore scoring? Generally it's poor or inefficient cooling. They say that the cyclinders heat and warp, assuming an oval shape. I've also read that Porsche used sub-standard materials for the liners in this first mass-produced engine which has an impact also. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 That sucks, doesn't sound like them to cheap out like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 The more I read about Porkers, the more I hate that company, unbelievable how many engine are/been in the same state as mine with Porsche not acknowledging it's bad design, using cheap materials on a car that cost £48k when new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINKJ Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 This is terrible news!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yikes Adrian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Bloody hell, it's like the thread of over-reaction in here. Marzman has it spot-on, it's a cooling problem above all. Poor warming up and cooling down massively contributes too. If any engine is using 1L/1000k, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Fingers crossed the warranty company comes good for you mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The only engine I'd be ok with doing 1l per 1000 miles is a rotary, and that's only because the oil isn't that expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) This was doing 1.5L per 615miles Edited June 11, 2015 by octet@TORQEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimboy2 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) I assume you've had a look at Hartech's prices? http://www.hartech.org/porsche_996_997_Boxster_engine_failure_repair_rebuilds_prices.html Looking at £6k +VAT for 6x new cylinders. I could probably google this, but I can't be bothered What causes the bore scoring? Generally it's poor or inefficient cooling. They say that the cyclinders heat and warp, assuming an oval shape. I've also read that Porsche used sub-standard materials for the liners in this first mass-produced engine which has an impact also. +1 for hartech. Jamie I think the blokes name was. My mate used him to rebuild his 996 when it went pop. Jamie drove to Portsmouth on a Sunday and picked it up and had it all done in a couple of weeks. My mate said it was around the 6k mark. Edited June 11, 2015 by jimboy2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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