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Y'know, when you stop worrying about what the finished article looks like 'cos someone's only going to rip it all off in a few days anyway, it's a very cathartic experience Everyone else all organised and sorted I take it?

I'd be amazed if most of these failures were down to anything other than either wrong fuel or more likely lack of oil. The Zed has been around too long now and the DE lump even longer, so if there was an inherent fault then it would likely have shown its face by now.

I doubt it'll ever be finally sorted, EA's not that kind of company. It's still fun, even with the glitches. I bought Lego Marvel today. I did have it preordered for release date, and then found out it was half price if you bought it on the launch date, but then it got postponed a week. Kept my pre-order though but never went back to pick it up. Popped into Game today and saw they still had it up for half price if you buy an Xbone, so asked the question if I could now finally buy it for half price and after a bit of paper shuffling they agreed

I refuse to join in with a thread like this until such a time upon when the sun doth rise somewhere in this wonderful world of ours on the twenty-fifth day of the twelfth month, and tidings of gladness and merriment may legitimately be spread without fear that the apocalypse rocks up on Xmas Eve and then we're all pretty much f*cked.

Comparisons between Forzas.

There could be all sorts of hidden gremlins hiding. Modern cars are designed to be used, when they're not you end up with bits seizing and snapping and breaking and electrical probs via condensation etc. Each to their own, of course, but I wouldn't consider a car that had done less than 5K a year average. Certainly wouldn't pay a premium of anything below that.

I don't think I'd want a car that old with that few miles on. Just over 2K miles a year, that's just asking for issues if you start using it more regularly! Take your time mate, no rush and there's plenty out there for choice, be well worth it when you do get one

I'd be more worried about incidental costs rather than general running costs. Fuel, tax, insurance, you can figure that out and budget for that easily enough. What about when you need a set of tyres all round at £800? Or brakes? Or the engine lunches itself and that's £1500 thank you sir? If you've got the slushfund all set then I say go for it, the Zed is an incredibly rewarding car, but if not then the price might be too high to pay.

As close to the limiter as you can get.

Tbh, and please don't take this the wrong way as everyone manages their finances differently, but spending a third of your pay packet on fuel is borderline insanity.

I was close then! To be fair I've not had to do it in over three years

Oil pressure should never be taken as oil level. That's not to say I didn't used to do it, but it's only because I was taking regular readings with the (crappy!) dipstick and I got to know the engine. That was on a Revup though. It's still a Very Bad Idea to do that! You're not alone mate, the dipstick is useless and sometimes it really is best guess. Best way to do it is to drain the oil, refill with exactly 4.7L (IIRC?) and then see what the stick says. At least that way you know what you're looking for when it's bang on top.

Let me put it this way: 95RON could break your engine if you've a DE or Revup car. That should help you justify it a bit.

Not a huge issue IMHO, these are test tyres and won't be used again. If they don't know where the failure point is, then they can't move forwards. Unlucky it was Rosberg and at 200mph, but that's what testing is for.

Too soon for 'breaking the fourth wall' jokes? Must be horrible to witness something like that, hope any injuries aren't too severe.

What's wrong with the yellow one? Sure, it's a bit 355 at the rear and a bit S2K at the front, but at least it's not full of sharp angles like that black thing. Green one is nice though, but def needs a bit of tarting up on the inside too.

Strangely, I'm not keen on that and I adore the G and Aventador. Looks a bit fat in the middle.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with running them. I've only limited experience with them myself, as I prefer to stick to summers throughout the year, I was only pointing out that winters =/= safe and winters =/= better in all conditions during the winter period. If people want to run them then that's great, I appreciate that some needs them more than others (especially the northern folk).

Tyres aren't exactly made of sandpaper though, are they? Flawed analogy. I'm sure winter tyres would stop better than summer tyres on the same sheet of ice, but if one takes 200m to stop and one takes 210m then it's two halves of naff all. Winter tyres won't make you invicible on stuff like that, is the point I'm trying to make. Same as 4WD doesn't automatically mean it's safe to do 70mph on slush when other sensible drivers are doing 50mph.

Perhaps their need was greater?

Yeah, one Romanian is enough

Great, thanks for the input. Why do you do that? One word answers/memes in threads where sensible discourse is actually the right response? You're not half bad with words mate, so why not make the effort to actually say what you're inferring rather than just Lol or a picture?

Big statement Dan, so hundreds of Governments and people around the world have got it wrong ! Safer is a relative term. Shorter stopping distance in the cold and damp at 3c? Yeah, sure. More grip on cold compacted snow/ice? No chance, you cannae break the laws of physics Jim. Put an average driver who knows nothing about tyres in a Ford Focus with summers on and an Elise with winters on and see which one he bins first. Are winter tyres safer than summers on a dry day at 7c? Nope. There's so many different circumstances and variables that it's impossible to say that winters are simply better than summers from October to March. It implies a sense of safety where one might not actually exist. In certain conditions, winter tyres offer certain advantages over summer tyres, especially this time of year. But 100% safer? Sorry, I don't feel that's a correct statement to make.

Winter tyres are not safer than summer tyres. The driver is what makes a car safe, not tyres or 4WD or anything else. Winter compounds do offer more grip in cold temps, no doubt about it. They're also horrendous and can double your stopping distance in temps outside of their working range, which is just as bad as summer tyres when in the cold. It's all about common sense and driving to the conditions, which includes what kind of rubber you have on your wheels. At 6c I would put a pound to a penny on the MPSS having much more grip than the Alpins. Hell, I'd make the same case at 3c, on dry/moist roads.