Ekona Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Congrats to the people of Scotland for making what I believe to be the right choice. I'm not sure what was worse to see first thing in the morning, a grumpy Salmond or a gloating Darling. Those two really do represent the very worst of the campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Well done Scotland for such an incredible turn out, as we know from the threads on here you were very passionate one way or the other, so pleased to see that was represented at the polls to give you a definitive answer, although quite close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 We love you Scotland. Now who we gonna charge for this whole thing? We might need to start charging uni fees up there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Fantastic turn out of over 90% so the people truly have spoken. Even with the no vote there will surely be big changes on the way Scotland is run because of this, it can only be a good thing. Be interesting to see what Salmond does now, if he stands up to be counted or crawls under a rock... Edited September 19, 2014 by spursmaddave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) ? Edited September 24, 2014 by StevoD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ^ now that is a good turn out by the voters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Fantastic turn out of over 90% so the people truly have spoken. Even with the no vote there will surely be big changes on the way Scotland is run because of this, it can only be a good thing. Be interesting to see what Salmond does now, if he stands up to be counted or crawls under a rock... 85% from the reports i have seen, massively impressive though, apparently the turnout for the general election was more like 55%. I would imagine Salmond will put the usual political spin on it and say so long as they get more devolution that is what he wanted so its a win win I would hope this signals the way for change in this United Kingdom, so can we please have a vote to leave the EU now Edited September 19, 2014 by Jetpilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobears Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I am glad that Scotland are still with us but I do feel sad that nearly half of the population will be angry that they are not independent I hope that it doesn't cause further divisiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) ? Edited September 24, 2014 by StevoD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I am glad that Scotland are still with us but I do feel sad that nearly half of the population will be angry that they are not independent I hope that it doesn't cause further divisiveness. TBH, when youve had a pretty even handed campaign, an 85% turnout and a win by 10% AND Westminster have promised further devolution for Scotland then its probably the best demonstration of democracy in my lifetime. Anyone who gets angry about the result is a bit of a tool IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Sorry heard 90% when I woke up Definitely a time for reflection not for rejoicing, lots of things need changing for the better, better together to quote the side that 'won' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Least we don't have to change Scotland yard now. Although I was looking forward to Wales Yard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I am glad that Scotland are still with us but I do feel sad that nearly half of the population will be angry that they are not independent I hope that it doesn't cause further divisiveness. Don't think it will cause too much anger, just dissapointment maybe Hopefully any changes in the next few years will all be for the good of the UK, England AND Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Least we don't have to change Scotland yard now. Although I was looking forward to Wales Yard. I'm also glad, I really like shortbread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Despite all the comments, at the end of the day if I were looking at this from a dragons den perspective the Yes campaign did not do enough to convince me to invest in the idea. They got a decent head of steam via some chest beating on AS part in the last couple of weeks but the argument wasn't strong enough for me anyway. Just been watching some coverage on TV, there was a journo/writer woman from the Yes campaign, she had a dig at those voting No saying that the country 'lacked the courage' to vote Yes. Its her type that are the core root of the No victory if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I wonder how many firms have lost out by putting printing/merchandise in place in anticipation of a YES vote. Excellent turn out but not all who registered did vote - wonder if those who stayed at home and perhaps regretting that in hindsight, had presumed the outcome...... I have to say none of the politcians on either side were exactly convincing, in fact all were rather sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 This will be just the beginning of a very long and complicated process of devolving powers to Scotland, maybe some of the goons at Westminster on all sides will heed the warning this time that it's not just Scotland that so many of them seem out of touch with. All IMHO of course. Sent from my Zed using Nangkang tyres front, RE040's rear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zedd Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I think the whole voting/counting process is totally antiquated and open to abuse. I mean people counting bits of paper and stacking them into piles.....come on its 2014 not 1914! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Better that than some dodgy electronic system that falls over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbster Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I think the whole voting/counting process is totally antiquated and open to abuse. I mean people counting bits of paper and stacking them into piles.....come on its 2014 not 1914! I totally agree, just as long as it's not the same automated system that got George Dubbya Bush into power via the pregnant chad debacle. Well done to the inhabitants of Scotland. Although the campaigning got a bit tedious at times (IMNSHO), this was an excellent example of referendum/people power/democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Be interesting to see some comments from the Scottish members, to see what the general opinion is, ie if they truly believe there will be substantial change now despite the vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Despite all the comments, at the end of the day if I were looking at this from a dragons den perspective the Yes campaign did not do enough to convince me to invest in the idea. They got a decent head of steam via some chest beating on AS part in the last couple of weeks but the argument wasn't strong enough for me anyway. Just been watching some coverage on TV, there was a journo/writer woman from the Yes campaign, she had a dig at those voting No saying that the country 'lacked the courage' to vote Yes. Its her type that are the core root of the No victory if you ask me. She is probably very right, but more so for the points you make at the start. I get the feeling the Yes campaign felt Scotland would just vote for independence without having the major issues answered or at least a decent plan, there was too much, it will work out fine, without much substance imho Had they answered or sorted the major concerns, they probably would have faired much much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Agreed. Far too many guesses or unanswered questions, and if you weren't sure there's no way you could stick your country on a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Here's the Edinburgh News take on it all. http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/scottish-independence-as-it-happened-1-3545331 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hensh65 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The mood in the camp is very, very firey as far as I can see. family members falling out over social media etc. Was never a result that was going to be taken lightly given how much work both sides put into the debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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