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Ignoring v low volume like ginetta, morgan, Caterham etc just to get a more common sense answer to this. I think it might be the 500. Generation also includes mid-life facelifts

Not hating but in the showroom they look great and from a distance. If I go up to that car and inspect the paint close up (esp outside) and start pressing the panels, vents, bumpers etc it would become apparent that its simply not as "solid" as even a Focus RS or AMG A45 w/Aero Pack for instance (both of which come with a v good paint job btw)

I think I might have it Abarth 500 2008-present

Was about to mention the punto but like the G wagon 463 that generation is no longer in production It gets a bit grey with low volume car makers like Caterham, Ginetta . I think it could be the GTR . maybe some of the older guys on here may have a better idea

the current generation . So the Fiesta has only recently entered its lates generation lotus Evora has been in the same generation (gen 1) since 2009 i think up till 2018 it was the G wagon (1990-2018 G Class 463)

i.e. which car that you can buy new today has been produced for the longest amount of time in its current lifecycle Anyone have an idea. UK market only

I found that the clutch engagement is a different then other manuals. But you will get used to it. Ive got an 18 plate Nismo with the Exedy clutch

Yea a low mileage VX was something I thought of actually of. If de-prioritising exclusivity I agree with the earlier comment that the Boxter/Cayman start to come into the fray esp in one of the more flashy colours/wheel combinations

My rough definition for this would be a balance of the following: Performance Price Exclusivity/Rarity Potential Reliability Build finish incl interior Looks/Road Presence

They have great engines and the sound is a huge selling point. Even if the engines are fairly reliable its the lack of finish to the bodypanels when inspected close up that's putting me off. If the C7 would drop to £30-35k then I'd be tempted but above £45k then one is drawn more to its flaws. The paint just doesn't seem to age well on the type of material they use for the bodypanels. They don't have that thick paint look to them nor colour vividness - its like looking at flimsy cardboard packaging and then a thick cardboard; you don't even have to feel the two to tell which one is cheaper/less solid. The higher spec Corvettes/Camaros have a very aftermarket look to them with the body kit modifications - like the Nismo Mk1 . I know some like that but for me I prefer an OEM type look like the Mk2 Nismo

Or more specifically modern day Corvettes and Camaros I think a few members already know I have always had a soft spot for Corvettes in particular. I might have just had one of those don't meet your heroes moments... Recently I was able to visit a dealership where I got to view a bunch of new and slightly used Camaros and Vettes. What struck me as I examined the cars close up is that there something about them that is q hard to sum up in one word but the body panels look and feel like they have been constructed from q cheap albeit lightweight material. Its not just a case of the use of plastic but its the type of plastic that used for bumpers , vents and stylistic accents. In fact the irony with the C7 Corvette, which has less of a classic look compared to the C4/C5/C6, has these aforementioned plastic accents which actually just highlight the fact that "hey look at me I'm the part of the body panel that's made out of cheap black gloss plastic!". The Nismo I own has a lightweight panel construction that feels less solid than a TT esp noticeable when I wash the car but it doesn't have that corner cutting, cheap tactile sensation. The Corvette has certain areas on the front bumper and back that literally sqeak when pressed But then what makes it worse is that the paint looks really thin. Even on new models. I've researched that its the choice of material they go with for body panels that mean that the paint curing process is more tricky and time consuming. The result is that the paint just doesn't look as thick as Audi, Porsche, Lexus and BMW paint. Its almost a thin looking paint. If they had a Nardo Grey or a Miami Blue paint finish then I think the first point would be saveable but the paint finish is just not there. Of the four colours Ive seen the new C7 only one that "popped" visually was a torch red one though this probably doesn't count as it was brand new , sitting in the showroom. The above observations only become apparent when you look at the cars close up. In photos and from a distance they look great and on par with Japanese and European rivals. The issue I have is this: American cars over here are not cheap rides to go out and buy and run. Even if you ignore the interior, the exterior construction still needs to be up to standard at that price . I'll be honest the interior of the new C7 is only slightly better then the Mk2 370z It led me to conclude that my current 370z Nismo Mk2, which is probably the pinnacle of the 370z, might be the best bang for your buck sports cars on the market when everything is taken into consideration including the build quality and finish. Given that Zs are made in the same factory as the GTR and certain Infinitis in Tochigi, Japan I just have a more confident gut feeling that there is more care and attention , less corner cutting involved in the production compared to other more expensive cars Corvette, Mustang, Alfa 4c, Lotus...

That's really good actually. Seems like 15 months ago when I signed my contract prices were holding up. Wanted an ex demo 2nd hand with a few thousand miles on the forecourt but they would not negotiate below £29k despite it having a minor bump/dent on the front wheel arch that I spotted. They were more incentivised to sell new on finance so I went with that with a few service packs thrown in. The JDM get the option of a few extras like clear rear lights and racing stripes which was not offered here in the EU Its a reliable car on paper ; simple yet tried and tested so I don't think you need to worry. I cringe when I look at the numbers the new M3/M4s, RSs, Rs, put out from a tiny engine together with all the techy gizmos inside which will be expensive when something goes wrong esp since the cars tend to be revved from a cold racing from traffic light to light by owners. Coming from a VW Polo GTI, I don't feel like I miss out not having leather interior, electrically controlled seats, virtual cockpit,adaptive suspension etc with the Nismo It's got just enough for you to get by in the modern world although I find the rear camera very pointless (gets covered in muck in rain, poor to see at night and has an odd perspective" and use my side mirrors .

Potentially? Funnily enough the 8 June has a few events happening not just cars related. It might be one the busiest weekends of the year. Recommend leaving early

really mines got 7.5k from new same year/reg. Ex demo? how much did you pay if you don't mind me asking? I wanted a Nismo but the ones second hand were still a bit high in price so I ended up going new. I think you/I got the best colour Storm White. I do think that Silver would be interesting tho as there's a lot of grey/charcoal accents on the car (handles, wheels, front/rear diffusor, side skirts etc). I don't regret the Storm White esp when freshly cleaned

I think the 370z sticks out everywhere tbh In London there is a massive preference to the German brands . The Nismo Mk2 looks like its in the same price point so often gets acknowledged by this crowd if that makes sense (as in you can tell when someone is checking out your car). Had a Lambo driver with his window down oncoming stuck in traffic turning his head as I passed once - that was surprising lol

Well done looks just like mine. Same spec and year lol Yea rigid and smooth delivery agree. whats the miles on it?

Yea its a plus point ppl also slow down to let you go / give way esp in town when travelling slow speeds Mk2 Nismo in Storm White is a real head turner. I think they nailed the design from back to front to the side. If the roof was a targa top then that would be insane if they managed it somehow like a Corvette. Would have meant not having to release a poor selling roadster - but that's hindsight for you! A few people have asked me upon seeing the car how does the roof come off

Looks like Park Royal to me?

I found a video on youtube that shows the clear lights on a White Nismo Mk2 rear. I thought that prior to buying it would be essential to see what it looks like on the Nismo as the car has red accents and a "less clean" design to the GT model In the video the rear lights do look better in motion as you get to see the reflection in them more - the standard lights obviously are less clear so less light reflects off them. Im not sure which looks better tbh. One thing is certain is that £900 is a lot lol

So the Q60s are still £35k lowish miles second hand atm. Any predictions as to how low these will plummet to in the immediate future? My prediction is that they will take a slight dip now/next 6 months but wont be until next year when Infiniti officially leaves the UK market (i.e closes the dealerships, advertising etc) that the real drop will occur. so end 2020 a Q60 3.0 that's now £35k can be picked up for around £20k with the addition of about 5-10k more miles on it

The 370z in general is shaped in such a way that the body takes the attention away from the rims - this is regardless of the rims imo - most people notice the hips of the car, the roofline or the front (Nismo) . Contrast that to an S3 saloon where the rims can drastically transform the car visually. Like the look of this but need to see in person to appreciate

2013 - 2018: Polo GTI 6R (2012) 2018 - Present: 370z Nismo Mk2 Polo GTI a lot more practical and nippy around town. Easy to manoeuvre around tight spaces, u-turns, parking etc . Suspension about the same if anything the GTI felt a bit stiffer 370z ten times more road presence; people react to it in the same way to a Ferrari or Porsche and tend to give way, slow down Point to point in heavy urban areas the GTI got me from A to B quicker as needed less effort to drive and I drive the Z more carefully

They all but denied this months back yet people here kept speculating Another US article that confirms the withdrawal from W Europe from next year. There are no plans if they will return post 2021 when their EV range begins production. That's the initial launch that didn't go well G35 up , the recent relaunch of the brand with the Q30 - they might not come back https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/infiniti-leaving-western-europe-2020/ Interestingly the Q60 3.0 are now £35k - these will presumably drop to £25k this time next year https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903085678915?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&radius=200&make=INFINITI&model=Q60&postcode=nw34tg&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=price-desc&page=2

Agree there are bits of it that are a nice touch but my eyes start to hurt when looking at the wheel arch fender flares

would def avoid old high mileage exotics as stated above so would go for this at £26k