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My mate put a red top engine in his and it flew! However he didn't uprate the brakes and it lasted about three months, flying down the A30 one night someone pulled out in front of us and we ended up on the roof in a field I've never seen instant brake fade like that since, we were lucky to survive that one. Ahh the exuberance and stupidity of youth

It was my understanding the Uprev turned them off. Either way my CEL has not come on since the map. I still have them fitted but they do nothing. I think we mean the same thing mate.

With post cat sensors and HFCS you may experience the CEL/EML light will come on. I had this issue with my Berk cats. I replaced with new sensors but it still came on regularly. Ultimately I went and got the Uprev map done and had them deleted. Pre cat sensors I replaced anyway as they are the important ones and have no influence on which cats are on the car. I wouldn't bother and save up to get the Uprev done with regards post cat sensors and get them deleted.

Nice in black.

I'm not a drag strip jockey either hence the reason for getting an Elise. It's the whole experience of feeling in control and at one with a car, enjoying the twisties with a nice balanced chassis and just enough power to exploit it at legal speeds. I'm just hoping that when and if things change from an ownership point of view not all of the fun goes. I had a little Lupo GTI once and along with the FRP still rates as some of the best front driving fun I've had. The Hondas were good especially the DC2 but my move to RWD opened up even more fun the Elise will cap that off nicely. The biggest threat to my fun is outright autonomy but hopefully I will be to old to care by then. The Z found a place I hadn't really explored and that was modding, I still enjoy the car but with the ensuing company hack coming it's lightweight impractical weekender time and I can't wait! The Tes will be the other half's car and hopefully a nice family run about.

A drivers EV now that's cool. Is there any reason why you couldn't put a manual/ semi auto box in to an EV for enthusiasts. I'm not an engineer and I know electric motors give instant torque depending on power given but theoretically it could be done couldn't it? Maybe there's to much torque generated for a conventional box but surely something can be done to at least make it feel more driver orientated. At least then all a petrol head gives up is noise and that's slightly more palatable tbh.

I'm hoping the 3 falls between the 25 and 35k mark, that puts it in budget. As for the Leaf or Zoe, the missus prefers the exterior design and interior of the 3 as do I. I'm sorry but I still don't understand the issue here. It will cost peanuts to run compared to a ICE vehicle. The purchase cost if as stated is in our budget is the same amount we are planning to pay for her new car anyway. I'm still the family petrol head by the way and won't be relinquishing my hobby just yet. We have off road parking within our property boundary with regards charging so all good. Even if I didn't want a 3 I'm out voted by the rest of the clan, however I'm fairly positive about it and would like to think my views on EV though initially skeptical will air on a more positive note once it's here. Anyhow there's a long wait so I would rather not speculate to much before they arrive on this continent.

I certainly didn't intend to annoy anyone with this thread The reason I posted was to highlight an affordable Tesla. I don't have 75k to spend on a car either. I think the 3 will be the making of Tesla as a brand purely because it's affordable. I fully expect to see future Tesla products that are even cheaper. We will be getting one but I can't say exactly when at the moment. It even made the news this morning.

Cracking colour for the 370, welcome.

The standard clutch biting point is high on the Z anyway. It took me a while to get used to it. Also the fly by wire throttle in standard tune seems a little hesitant and thus doesn't help smooth getaways. All perfectly normal. There is a mod to adjust the biting point but I've never bothered and just to add my clutch was replaced at over 90k and still had a good 10k in it. The biting point was exactly the same after the new clutch was fitted. The best money I spent was on the Uprev map, throttle action is now comparable to other cars with a smooth linear pick up.

The thing that's sold me on the 3 isn't just the running cost but the factoring in of the purchase price within that cost. My main gripe initially with Tesla was the cost of buying one. Finally we have an affordable option here in a practical package. My other half was starting to warm to Tesla long before me as one of her clients has an S, his car I believe cost around the 98k mark but was filtered through his business justifying the purchase somewhat. One of my current clients is Thatcham Research in Berkshire, I have seen first hand several S models that have undergone crash lab testing and the guys there really rate the safety on the brand. Seeing as they rate vehicles for the insurance sector I believe them wholeheartedly. The outer structure and deformation is extremely impressive whilst retaining an amazing level of occupant protection. A 26k dummy full of electronics doesn't lie The 3 although smaller follows this vein but unfortunately I won't see that tested because I'm changing employer in October. So we have a car that for family transport for someone who clocks up 15k miles a year is extremely safe and cheap to run all for the price of a new family car. For us this is no brainer territory. I have requested an economic golf sized hatch for my new company hack and will of course be able to afford my petrol head weekender. We have come to the conclusion it's a perfect balance as a family and keeps everyone happy including the banks My 20 year old son who rarely accompanies us anywhere these days is a tech freak and can't wait to get his hands on a 3! My youngest daughter has also tipped the scales in favour of a Tesla.

Historically I've bought older desirable cars and enjoyed them whilst returning them to a saleable standard. By this I mean replacing known problem parts starting with the mechanicals and finishing with the cosmetics always ensuring along the way it's serviced and maintained with extensive documentation to prove work done. My old M3 was a case in point and it left my tenure a much better car than it was originally. Easy enough when wanting to sell a standard car and I've never had an issue selling before. The Z was my first foray into modifying but I've tried to keep it subtle in the sense it will still attract a buyer come sale time, unproven ground for me. It's a difficult balance to pull off and inevitably there is always a line between personal taste and the taste of others. In a couple of months the strategy will be tested when it goes up for sale. I would say the retention of standard items is a must if you want a car that's desirable to a wider audience and lairy paint or graphics and deletion of safety kit is a no no. Keeping OEM parts removed at least gives you the option to return to standard or sell with the car. The former means aftermarket bits can be sold separately to recoup some of the initial cost. Massive positives IMO would include the replacement of parts that are known issues on the model and instilling the peace of mind to a prospective owner that these jobs have been done. No guarantee obviously but it helps. I've even sold cars with patchy service histories based on the things I had done whilst owning the car.

It would seem all are specced with the hardware necessary for additional add ons and automation later on. It would be the base car we go for and as cheap as possible. Even the Base has a quoted dash of 5.6 and a range over 200 miles so would be more than adequate for the missus. In fact it would be the fastest accelerating car she has ever owned

I think a year is indeed optimistic but as I said she is willing to hang on to her existing car until then. Getting our names down for one is the first step and we shall see from there. I really like them and the interior was one of the selling points funnily enough

I must be mad! With the imminent arrival of my new company hack and the prospect of a nice Elise weekender looming, attention has turned to the other half's replacement car next year. The model 3 has caught her eye and after doing some research Ive warmed to it a fair bit. Well quite a lot actually! (Don't tell GZ!) She is an accountant so the idea of no longer buying fuel speaks volumes to her and to be fair would free up a fair bit of cash a year for the household budget. Her daily is only used for the 15 mile trip to her office and back plus school runs etc. Add to this my tech savvy offspring being super keen for her to get one and the prospect looks more likely. I still need to look at order/delivery times and we may need to wait longer and keep her existing hack a while but as unlikely as it is I may have an EV on the drive within the year. I would like to apologise to all my petrol head chums in advance However it won't technically be my car anyway

I had a Nova many moons ago, it was ok but the offset steering wheel annoyed the hell out of me There is always an avid collector somewhere looking to pay silly money for a minter though but 16k! From the list posted the only one I would consider would be the Mini.

He must be in heaven having two to tinker with

Superb colour that

Excellent choice mate enjoy.

Ok, I'm sour about losing my one and only hobby in the future however that doesn't mean I'm anti progress. I follow with great interest the progress of renewable energy sources and will champion any innovation as it arises. The possibilities are endless and that element does excite me. From recycling to multi function solar road plates and street furnishings we live in exciting times. The downside as stated is revenue sources for governments and how they implement charging for energy in the future. If the cost of producing energy comes down its all good but alas someone will make money somewhere along the line and reverse that trend. As usual we will be out of pocket but if it helps prolong our time on this rock then at least I can die happy knowing my children's children will have a cleaner more sustainable future. In the meantime and in light of my impending career change a new hobby must be found

Barring an accident in 2040 I will be near enough dead anyway so they can do what they like. I applaud the innovation but the prospect of automous electric cars ignites zero passion in me. EVs bore the living s***e out of me, oooo look how quickly I can accelerate in my two ton automatic fridge on wheels! I'm sorry but any petrol head worth their salt will miss the noise of an ICE and stirring a manual box. Driving will become like a kids fairground attraction, fun but ultimately monotone blandness. Well I'm going to enjoy my cars for as long as possible sod the lefty greens.

Well after nigh on 20 years of working shifts and unsociable hours/ weekends I have gained a new employer and a normal working week. I've always worked hard in my sector and it didn't go unnoticed thankfully. It's for a smaller competitor but is a promotion with all the usual benefits operations management involves, car etc. When collecting my daughter from school the other day I told her the news and she started crying. When I asked what was wrong she replied " I'm not sad dad I'm happy to be getting my dad back every weekend and Christmas" . I then realised my son who is 20 never had me around for key stages when growing up, in today's fast tracked world it's easy to forget the most important things in the quest to pay the bills. Up until that point my focus had been on career advancement and making sure my retirement in 20 years would be as comfortable as possible. Now I have a chance to atone for that and return to a normality that has been so foreign for so long. The Z is booked in for its last MOT in September and will be up for sale shortly after. It will be replaced with a true lightweight weekender probably a lotus but we will see. Hard work but good times ahead and I can't b****y wait

Never heard of him but RIP anyway.

Same year as mine mate except mine has 98k miles. I would advertise at 6250 to 6500 on that low mileage all day long. This then gives you room to manoeuvre and still walk away with more than 5750.

As stated all common issues from every Z from DE through to HR. Uprev map can sort throttle response. Clicky rear an easy fix. Chatter from the transmission common on idle especially if fitted with a lighter fly but still there with OEM DMF. Just to note even after a complete clutch refresh and bearings it doesn't take long to come back