350zlover Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thought id post this up if any one was interested, Sorry if it is in the wrong section. http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/ja ... /11065087/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC350Z Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thought id post this up if any one was interested, Sorry if it is in the wrong section. http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/ja ... /11065087/ i like the engine not sure about the rest tho would have to take that rs badge off and the jap limited led lights as the look cheap IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'm not a fan of that rear but that must be a future classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 £30k!?!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 £30k!?!?!?!? + vat etc 40k more like. The rear is gash but it's the 380RS. I don't think theres one in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryl Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Not a fan of the front or the rear to be honest,but certainly a rare car. Wheels look pants too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zlover Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Are the rear light aftermarket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ive never heard if an rs zed. What is it? Has it got 380bhp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zlover Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 no its a 3.8 v6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBoy Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ive never heard if an rs zed. What is it? Has it got 380bhp? That's the street legal version, so it has a bored and stroked 3.8l DE-based engine producing around 350bhp. They also made a track only 380RS-C with around 400bhp. They only made 300 of them, so pretty damn rare. Kind of anoying that Nissan could clearly get 350bhp out of the DE engine without making it un-steetable and yet the DE-engined regular Zeds had to make do with a whopping 74bhp less than that because of the stupid Japanese 276bhp gentlemen's agreement. Just think what a different class the car could have been in *sigh* DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Yea, the rear is gash, but I like the rest of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thats awsome. It is a shame that they couldnt of made the standard zed with that engine. So whats the story with the japanese gentlemans agreement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC350Z Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Are the rear light aftermarket? Lights are genuine nissan jdm anniversary lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Just looked in the recomended cars at the bottom of the link and theres a nissan Fuga, never heard of it before but its pretty cool and rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBoy Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thats awsome. It is a shame that they couldnt of made the standard zed with that engine. So whats the story with the japanese gentlemans agreement? It's all a bit cloudy as to the reasoning behind it (varies from government safety rules to JGTC homologation), but in essence there was an agreement (or rule depending who you ask) between japanese car manufacturers that no-one would make a car with more than 280PS (276bhp) as stock. I think there was also a top speed limit as well but can't remember what it was. This agreement was in force from way back in the 80's (or earlier, again based on who you ask) until 2004, so basically the 350Z caught the arse-end of the 276bhp era, but could (perhaps should) have been so much more powerful. DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chubby Ninja Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 So thats why the impreza and evo gsr and r34 gtr were around the same sort of power then where they could clearly produce a good bit more power with a good remap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ive never heard if an rs zed. What is it? Has it got 380bhp? That's the street legal version, so it has a bored and stroked 3.8l DE-based engine producing around 350bhp. They also made a track only 380RS-C with around 400bhp. They only made 300 of them, so pretty damn rare. Kind of anoying that Nissan could clearly get 350bhp out of the DE engine without making it un-steetable and yet the DE-engined regular Zeds had to make do with a whopping 74bhp less than that because of the stupid Japanese 276bhp gentlemen's agreement. Just think what a different class the car could have been in *sigh* DB That is a HR engine that we know is good for well over 500bhp even in standard guise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBoy Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ive never heard if an rs zed. What is it? Has it got 380bhp? That's the street legal version, so it has a bored and stroked 3.8l DE-based engine producing around 350bhp. They also made a track only 380RS-C with around 400bhp. They only made 300 of them, so pretty damn rare. Kind of anoying that Nissan could clearly get 350bhp out of the DE engine without making it un-steetable and yet the DE-engined regular Zeds had to make do with a whopping 74bhp less than that because of the stupid Japanese 276bhp gentlemen's agreement. Just think what a different class the car could have been in *sigh* DB That is a HR engine that we know is good for well over 500bhp even in standard guise. No it isn't. It isn't a DE or an HR, it is a detuned version of the engine from the 380RS-C which was based on a DE. So although it doesn't bear that much resemblance to either, it is genetically closer to a DE. DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 £30k!?!?!?!? + vat etc 40k more like. The rear is gash but it's the 380RS. I don't think theres one in the UK Yep, it's not a 350Z and would have to be imported as a 380RS, this could be a big problem....I found this in a 2009 posting on here. You do have an issue that if your the 1st to bring one in you have a hell of alot of hassle to deal with at the SVA as they need to go through the car with a fine tooth comb and create a whole new record for it.. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 One horrific looking piece of turd that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ive never heard if an rs zed. What is it? Has it got 380bhp? That's the street legal version, so it has a bored and stroked 3.8l DE-based engine producing around 350bhp. They also made a track only 380RS-C with around 400bhp. They only made 300 of them, so pretty damn rare. Kind of anoying that Nissan could clearly get 350bhp out of the DE engine without making it un-steetable and yet the DE-engined regular Zeds had to make do with a whopping 74bhp less than that because of the stupid Japanese 276bhp gentlemen's agreement. Just think what a different class the car could have been in *sigh* DB That is a HR engine that we know is good for well over 500bhp even in standard guise. No it isn't. It isn't a DE or an HR, it is a detuned version of the engine from the 380RS-C which was based on a DE. So although it doesn't bear that much resemblance to either, it is genetically closer to a DE. DB Its based on the HR engine. Its the same as the US models which were a 3.5 HR, its just been bored/stroked to a 3.8 As for bringing one in, theres already atleast one over here - may even be a 2nd one somewhere. I'm sure there was another member who bought one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBoy Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ive never heard if an rs zed. What is it? Has it got 380bhp? That's the street legal version, so it has a bored and stroked 3.8l DE-based engine producing around 350bhp. They also made a track only 380RS-C with around 400bhp. They only made 300 of them, so pretty damn rare. Kind of anoying that Nissan could clearly get 350bhp out of the DE engine without making it un-steetable and yet the DE-engined regular Zeds had to make do with a whopping 74bhp less than that because of the stupid Japanese 276bhp gentlemen's agreement. Just think what a different class the car could have been in *sigh* DB That is a HR engine that we know is good for well over 500bhp even in standard guise. No it isn't. It isn't a DE or an HR, it is a detuned version of the engine from the 380RS-C which was based on a DE. So although it doesn't bear that much resemblance to either, it is genetically closer to a DE. DB Its based on the HR engine. Its the same as the US models which were a 3.5 HR, its just been bored/stroked to a 3.8 As for bringing one in, theres already atleast one over here - may even be a 2nd one somewhere. I'm sure there was another member who bought one. Sorry, but it's not an HR, lol. It shares the crank, rods, pistons, block and valves with the 380RS-C engine which is DE-derived (if you can find a picture of it you'll see it has a single throttle body with a mahoosive plenum). For the 300 380RS road cars that were only ever sold in Japan, they modified the engine slightly with different heads and dual throttle bodies (presumably to make it more bonnet-friendly), but that doesn't make it an HR. It's a Nismo engine built for Super-Taikyu racing and detuned for better road manners, it's not a Nissan VQ35 engine anymore. I know this because I wondered a while ago whether it would be possible to replicate a 380RS engine to any degree of accuracy, and then found out after quite a lot of research that you can't because it isn't similar enough to a DE or an HR for either engine to be a viable starting point. DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Well, I'll be damned http://www.supercars.net/cars/4110.html type Racing Car built at Japanese price $ $ 285,000 price ¥/td> ¥28,350,000 engine VQ35HR V6 displacement 3798 cc / 231.77 in³ bore 95.5 mm / 3.76 in stroke 88.4 mm / 3.48 in power 294 kw / 394.3 bhp @ 7200 rpm specific output 103.82 bhp per litre bhp/weight 312.94 bhp per tonne torque 421 nm / 310.5 ft lbs @ 5200 rpm Read more at http://www.supercars.net/cars/4110.html ... lLDXqhG.99 Yup, NOT a HR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBoy Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Well, I'll be damned http://www.supercars.net/cars/4110.html type Racing Car built at Japanese price $ $ 285,000 price ¥/td> ¥28,350,000 engine VQ35HR V6 displacement 3798 cc / 231.77 in³ bore 95.5 mm / 3.76 in stroke 88.4 mm / 3.48 in power 294 kw / 394.3 bhp @ 7200 rpm specific output 103.82 bhp per litre bhp/weight 312.94 bhp per tonne torque 421 nm / 310.5 ft lbs @ 5200 rpm Read more at http://www.supercars.net/cars/4110.html ... lLDXqhG.99 Yup, NOT a HR Ok, now go to the Nismo website, translate it all from Japanese, and find where they mention the VQ35HR engine anywhere. Then read all the specs on the 380RS-C engine and realise it's not an HR either. Not everything on the internet is true, but if you can't believe the people who built the car, who can you believe. Nismo were using the race engine in early 2006, so why if they had already managed to get their hands on an HR and then had time to race-tune it, was the regular HR released a full year later? If Nissan had an HR ready in time to go racing in 2006, do you not think they'd just have given the rev-up a miss and gone straight to the HR rather than introducing a pointless middle-ground for a year? DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/products/comp ... spec2.html Pretty much right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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