I was thinking my comment was really not that useful ๐...... however .....
Its more relevant than ever, just find a good mobile detailer, hey presto clean car ....and no bad back
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/05/like-noisy-cars-you-could-be-a-sadist-or-psychopath-study-says/
Apparently anyone who likes a fruity sounding car is a psycho or a sadist ๐
โฆโฆ I guess we have a forum full of either or both ๐ญ