philb1965 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Rubbish first half, milner off, Walcott on....Rooney?...I'd give Carroll a go, holds the ball up well which we are lacking. Strapping myself in for a bumpy ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philb1965 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Knew Rooney would score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manphibian Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Awful team. Will be taken apart by Italy or Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philb1965 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Bring on the Italians, semi's here we come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Awful team. Will be taken apart by Italy or Spain. Since Rooney has joined in the chemistry of the team was appalling. Hes not needed we've done just fine without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choptop Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Well we won. This time with the 'foot of god' being on our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will370z Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Seems we are more solid at the back than we have been for a while, but even though we came top of the group a decent team is likely to cause big probs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I think we were very lucky to win. A totally lackluster performance by most of them. They are going to have to up their game a lot to beat anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 My predictions have been poor so far Fair play to England for topping the group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Its not all that bad guys, look at France they hardly covered themselves in glory. Look at the Dutch! I think we are hard to beat, given the lack of any real talent in the team what else are you meant to do? How else can you set the team up? We topped the group, when everyone predicted us being on the plane tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will370z Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Its not all that bad guys, look at France they hardly covered themselves in glory. Look at the Dutch! I think we are hard to beat, given the lack of any real talent in the team what else are you meant to do? How else can you set the team up? We topped the group, when everyone predicted us being on the plane tomorrow. Agreed but we are making too many mistakes and we cant keep the ball. Still yes we won and they deserve congrats, just wish we were better because the next games are going to be a big step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Bring on the Italians, semi's here we come! If you get a semi watching that, seek urgent medical help. Why is Rooney so fat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Its not all that bad guys, look at France they hardly covered themselves in glory. Look at the Dutch! I think we are hard to beat, given the lack of any real talent in the team what else are you meant to do? How else can you set the team up? We topped the group, when everyone predicted us being on the plane tomorrow. How else to set it up? Easy. Terry should play left centre-back next to Cole like at Chelsea. Jags should play right centre-back and Lescott move to right back getting rid of the ridiculous Johnson. Parker and The Ox in front of the back four. Parker needs more energy next to him and The Ox can play this role. See game against Milan for proof. Attacking midfield 3 of Gerrard, Walcott and Young. Send Milner home to avoid any more embarrassment. Defoe up front. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Its not all that bad guys, look at France they hardly covered themselves in glory. Look at the Dutch! I think we are hard to beat, given the lack of any real talent in the team what else are you meant to do? How else can you set the team up? We topped the group, when everyone predicted us being on the plane tomorrow. How else to set it up? Easy. Terry should play left centre-back next to Cole like at Chelsea. Jags should play right centre-back and Lescott move to right back getting rid of the ridiculous Johnson. Parker and The Ox in front of the back four. Parker needs more energy next to him and The Ox can play this role. See game against Milan for proof. Attacking midfield 3 of Gerrard, Walcott and Young. Send Milner home to avoid any more embarrassment. Defoe up front. Simples. Do you actually watch football as that one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read??? Lescott at right back?? (he's left footed) Ox as a defensive midfielder?? (he's a winger who had one decent game in the middle) Defoe as a lone striker?? (The shortest guy in the squad to win balls against 6' defenders on his own?) Nothing like playing people out of position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Not that bad from England and apart from Spain and Germany the remaining teams are pretty average. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Its not all that bad guys, look at France they hardly covered themselves in glory. Look at the Dutch! I think we are hard to beat, given the lack of any real talent in the team what else are you meant to do? How else can you set the team up? We topped the group, when everyone predicted us being on the plane tomorrow. How else to set it up? Easy. Terry should play left centre-back next to Cole like at Chelsea. Jags should play right centre-back and Lescott move to right back getting rid of the ridiculous Johnson. Parker and The Ox in front of the back four. Parker needs more energy next to him and The Ox can play this role. See game against Milan for proof. Attacking midfield 3 of Gerrard, Walcott and Young. Send Milner home to avoid any more embarrassment. Defoe up front. Simples. Do you actually watch football as that one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read??? Lescott at right back?? (he's left footed) Ox as a defensive midfielder?? (he's a winger who had one decent game in the middle) Defoe as a lone striker?? (The shortest guy in the squad to win balls against 6' defenders on his own?) Nothing like playing people out of position 1 - Best left back of all time? Maldini. Right-footed. To get the best out of Terry he should be on the left. It's a means to accommodate that move. And get rid of idiot boy Johnson. 2 - Who said the Ox was defending? We need pace hence bringing in the Ox, Walcott and Defoe. Wenger doesn't see him as a winger. I see his long-term position as a central player. 3 - Gerd Muller was tall wasn't he? Tevez? Greaves? Pele? All under 5' 9" I'd say. Defoe is a better goal-scorer than Rooney and he doesn't make me feel sick when he talks which helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 It doesn't matter which formation or players we use our squad is just not good enough and don't play like a team enough to compensate for lack of ability like say the Greeks or Danes have done so well in the past. Too many of the squad are not even regulars in their club teams let alone world class footballers. I hope we put up a brave fight against the Italians and who knows we may get lucky but if we don't perform a lot better than the last 3 games then it could be embarrassing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Nail, head It doesn't matter which formation or players we use our squad is just not good enough and don't play like a team enough to compensate for lack of ability like say the Greeks or Danes have done so well in the past. Too many of the squad are not even regulars in their club teams let alone world class footballers. I hope we put up a brave fight against the Italians and who knows we may get lucky but if we don't perform a lot better than the last 3 games then it could be embarrassing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manphibian Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 It is the worst England team i've ever seen, but being so hard to beat, means they will do just as well as the much better teams of the last few years. We have a chance against Italy, who themselves are not massively threatening in attack. I just wish it wasn't so bloody boring to watch. That Italy game has the potential to be the worst game of football in history. Team should be: Anyone else at right back, johnson is a joke. Where's Micah Richards? Start with Walcott and Young on the wings, same central pair. Where's Adam Johnson? Then Rooney and Caroll up front, but bring Defoe on for Rooney at half time if he's as bad as last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Its not all that bad guys, look at France they hardly covered themselves in glory. Look at the Dutch! I think we are hard to beat, given the lack of any real talent in the team what else are you meant to do? How else can you set the team up? We topped the group, when everyone predicted us being on the plane tomorrow. How else to set it up? Easy. Terry should play left centre-back next to Cole like at Chelsea. Jags should play right centre-back and Lescott move to right back getting rid of the ridiculous Johnson. Parker and The Ox in front of the back four. Parker needs more energy next to him and The Ox can play this role. See game against Milan for proof. Attacking midfield 3 of Gerrard, Walcott and Young. Send Milner home to avoid any more embarrassment. Defoe up front. Simples. Do you follow football? Johnson has arguably been our best defender at the tournament - Lescott is left footed! Ox in front of the back four? An attacking winger? One game is not 'proof' - he will get destroyed there at international level Walcott cant play down the middle, as we have seen time and again Have to say surprised Defoe hasnt had more time on the pitch, I am not as impressed by Wellbeck as everyone else seems to be. He scored that goal, but otherwise his play has generally been quite wasteful - would never stick Defoe up front on his own though he wouldnt touch the ball From what I have seen, the two banks of four have operated really well as a unit - some slack marking against the Swedes was at fault for the goals, not the system. Teams hate playing against this England team, you can see it all too clear, yes it doesnt look pretty but as I said I bet you sack of rice you wont see any England fans complaining if they go all the way in this tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 It is the worst England team i've ever seen, but being so hard to beat, means they will do just as well as the much better teams of the last few years. We have a chance against Italy, who themselves are not massively threatening in attack. I just wish it wasn't so bloody boring to watch. That Italy game has the potential to be the worst game of football in history. Team should be: Anyone else at right back, johnson is a joke. Where's Micah Richards? Start with Walcott and Young on the wings, same central pair. Where's Adam Johnson? Then Rooney and Caroll up front, but bring Defoe on for Rooney at half time if he's as bad as last night. I am still confused by all the anti-Johnson views, have people watched the three games properly without tinted glasses? He hasn't done much wrong, and has on occasion bailed us out with his pace which is very much lacking in the middle. Richards has class no doubt, but has only played about 100 minutes since March. Adam Johnson is suffering from whats called 'Cityism' ie playing for a team he never gets a decent run in the team therefore how can you pick him for international level? You saw last night what missing 4 weeks of football does to a players touch and form with Rooney's general play. Still waiting for Young to play well which is a worry as he was very consistent before the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Its not all that bad guys, look at France they hardly covered themselves in glory. Look at the Dutch! I think we are hard to beat, given the lack of any real talent in the team what else are you meant to do? How else can you set the team up? We topped the group, when everyone predicted us being on the plane tomorrow. How else to set it up? Easy. Terry should play left centre-back next to Cole like at Chelsea. Jags should play right centre-back and Lescott move to right back getting rid of the ridiculous Johnson. Parker and The Ox in front of the back four. Parker needs more energy next to him and The Ox can play this role. See game against Milan for proof. Attacking midfield 3 of Gerrard, Walcott and Young. Send Milner home to avoid any more embarrassment. Defoe up front. Simples. Do you actually watch football as that one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read??? Lescott at right back?? (he's left footed) Ox as a defensive midfielder?? (he's a winger who had one decent game in the middle) Defoe as a lone striker?? (The shortest guy in the squad to win balls against 6' defenders on his own?) Nothing like playing people out of position 1 - Best left back of all time? Maldini. Right-footed. To get the best out of Terry he should be on the left. It's a means to accommodate that move. And get rid of idiot boy Johnson. 2 - Who said the Ox was defending? We need pace hence bringing in the Ox, Walcott and Defoe. Wenger doesn't see him as a winger. I see his long-term position as a central player. 3 - Gerd Muller was tall wasn't he? Tevez? Greaves? Pele? All under 5' 9" I'd say. Defoe is a better goal-scorer than Rooney and he doesn't make me feel sick when he talks which helps 1) You really need have a word with your optician if you think Maldini was right footed 2) You said he would be in front of the back four aka defending!! 3) But none of them excelled as lone front men as your suggesting Defoe would. Back to the drawing board or lay off the booze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 How did the official not see that it was a goal? Good effort by Terry tho.... but come on its about time football got with the times and introduced video replay lke rugby / tennis etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I thought goal line technology was supposed to be live in the Euro's. Clearly a blind official doesn't constitute technology. It was blatantly over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hart is a great keeper and might keep us in a close game Lescott & Terry look ok without filling you with supreme confidence Cole & Johnson again ok without looking great, particularly Johnson who is a frustrated winger who can't cross well enough so is made to play right back Gerrard & Parker fantastic pairing both work their socks off, obviously Gerrard can pass and shoot, Parker can't Milner & Young don't get me started on Milner, he is a grafter but no real class or pace which is the opposite for Young, although he hasn't really performed as we know he can on the big stage yet. Rooney & Welbeck a decent partnership at club level and I think with better supply could cause a few problems but I can't see the 'bigger' teams quaking in their boots about facing them... Walcott should be starting if fit as he would cause far more problems than Milner Oxlade-Chamberlain - I have seen nothing to suggest he is either the next big thing or our saviour at the championship... yes he has pace but more often than not no end result. I would prefer Lennon to be there and come on for the last 20 minutes, he is inconsistent but when on form he can change a game in an instant. Other than that what options do we have, nothing defensive to shore things up more, nothing more creative in midfield to add some spice and nothing up front to cause any extra problems Just my 2p... I try and be unbiased when it comes to England, the only Spurs player I am disappointed didn't go is Lennon really as he is an impact player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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