brillomaster Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 But doesnt super give increased MPG right across the rev range, so the extra cost of super would still be offset by the increased mpg, whatever the journey type? Around here super is only 3 pence more expensive than normal (137.9 plays 140.9) which is 2.17% extra, so if you get 25mpg on normal, it would only have to go up to 25.5mpg on super for it to justify the price difference (plus the added benefits of extra torque, obviously) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 But doesnt super give increased MPG right across the rev range, so the extra cost of super would still be offset by the increased mpg, whatever the journey type? Around here super is only 3 pence more expensive than normal (137.9 plays 140.9) which is 2.17% extra, so if you get 25mpg on normal, it would only have to go up to 25.5mpg on super for it to justify the price difference (plus the added benefits of extra torque, obviously) no shell had to take down their advertisements for this reason. In the long run the engine stays cleaner etc which should help efficiency. I never see over 18mpg on a tank driving normally now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Interesting, 15% of people so far use 95ron at least 50% of the time, 10% almost all of the time Would have been useful to find out if the super non believers are mile munchers or not.... I must admit if I was doing a 30 mile each way commute in traffic each day I doubt I would bother with super unleaded, not much occasion to notice any decrease in power or performance or to get over 4k doing 30mph or less Most of the time I use super, but when the prices went up last month I couldn't justify £1.62 a litre so went with regular at £1.50 which was still ridiculous. For the sake of 8% difference, why you wouldn't put super in anyway is a mystery to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I never see over 18mpg on a tank driving normally now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter10 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 But doesnt super give increased MPG right across the rev range, so the extra cost of super would still be offset by the increased mpg, whatever the journey type? Around here super is only 3 pence more expensive than normal (137.9 plays 140.9) which is 2.17% extra, so if you get 25mpg on normal, it would only have to go up to 25.5mpg on super for it to justify the price difference (plus the added benefits of extra torque, obviously) Super around my area ranges in +3p through to +12p a litre depending on the day. +3p isn't an issue (I'll pay up to +7p) but after that I just can't see the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 About 20% of the time. I only ever use the one garage (Shell in Mold) and it doesn't always have V-Power. I never go to ASDA or Tesco as there's usually a 5 or 6 deep queue at each pump. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalos Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Have never filled the tank with anything less than Super, but had to stick a tenner in just after the strike fiasco when all the garages had restocked the standard unleaded but not Super! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 just the 1 time £20 to get me to a garage that had super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathWraith Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 V power makes me go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMystic Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Never used anything but super. I also get significantly higher MPG using Tesco's momentum stuff too. A good 3 or 4 MPG over V-Power on the same motorway trips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingPower Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Filled up at acorn and got nervous eh doc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Super all the time for me, except once in 18 months, 20 quids worth of the other stuff during the recent fuel panic, diluted asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveparkin Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I've voted never, never, never.... ....always used Shell V-Power (80%) or Tesco 99 (20%) since I bought mine. Mind you, I checked the MOTs, and I've only done 3.5k miles in the last year, so there's not much excuse for not finding the right fuel, really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Filled up at acorn and got nervous eh doc? NEVER! I actually know the guy that runs the BP so go there, the Shell is known for card fraud and with a JDM ECU and a penchant for high revs I defintiely wouldnt risk it. If I cant get super I just use one of my other cars until I can The poll actually came from somethign that Sarnie said, that as we havent seen many engine failures its probably blown out of proportion. My counter was that if everyone used super all the time (like Nissan say) then you wouldnt see many anyway, thought it would be interesting to see what the split was. If only 5% of cars are ever seeing low octane fuel it stands to reason we wont have seen many failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Shell V-Power all the way baby! Yeah buddy!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingPower Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 NEVER! I actually know the guy that runs the BP so go there, the Shell is known for card fraud and with a JDM ECU and a penchant for high revs I defintiely wouldnt risk it. If I cant get super I just use one of my other cars until I can The poll actually came from somethign that Sarnie said, that as we havent seen many engine failures its probably blown out of proportion. My counter was that if everyone used super all the time (like Nissan say) then you wouldnt see many anyway, thought it would be interesting to see what the split was. If only 5% of cars are ever seeing low octane fuel it stands to reason we wont have seen many failures. Problem is, shell has vpower. I bet that's why I had issues with a card once though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH 350Z Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Interesting this... But let's not forget the hordes of people who own a 350z but do not use this forum... and probably therefore are not as in love with the car as we are... they are more likely to put 95 in..? And the car hardly has any significant reliability issues against it's name. Also, has there ever been a reliable, well controlled and unbiased test to see if the higher stuff makes any difference to performance? I don't think you can really trust your own judgement on the road... there's bound to be a placebo effect of sorts. I think this stuff will give the car more power, therefore I believe it, therefore it does..?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingPower Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Interesting this... But let's not forget the hordes of people who own a 350z but do not use this forum... and probably therefore are not as in love with the car as we are... they are more likely to put 95 in..? And the car hardly has any significant reliability issues against it's name. Also, has there ever been a reliable, well controlled and unbiased test to see if the higher stuff makes any difference to performance? I don't think you can really trust your own judgement on the road... there's bound to be a placebo effect of sorts. I think this stuff will give the car more power, therefore I believe it, therefore it does..?!? Urr, I take it you haven't seen the pictures of what has happened to some zeds run on 95 ron then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Interesting this... But let's not forget the hordes of people who own a 350z but do not use this forum... and probably therefore are not as in love with the car as we are... they are more likely to put 95 in..? And the car hardly has any significant reliability issues against it's name. Also, has there ever been a reliable, well controlled and unbiased test to see if the higher stuff makes any difference to performance? I don't think you can really trust your own judgement on the road... there's bound to be a placebo effect of sorts. I think this stuff will give the car more power, therefore I believe it, therefore it does..?!? Urr, I take it you haven't seen the pictures of what has happened to some zeds run on 95 ron then? Still over 10% of people saying they use 95 ron at least 50% of the time if not more, and that is from owners that care enough about their car to sign up to this forum, I suspect the figure for non members is probably a fair amount higher... I will continue to use super because if I was a penny pincher I would sell the Zed and buy something more economical, but if I had to fill up with 95 for whatever reason then I certainly wouldn't be paranoid about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Plenty of you smoke fags and drink booze.....doesn't necessarily stop you going the gym or playing footy. Eventually it would but occasional blow outs don't kill you dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH 350Z Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Interesting this... But let's not forget the hordes of people who own a 350z but do not use this forum... and probably therefore are not as in love with the car as we are... they are more likely to put 95 in..? And the car hardly has any significant reliability issues against it's name. Also, has there ever been a reliable, well controlled and unbiased test to see if the higher stuff makes any difference to performance? I don't think you can really trust your own judgement on the road... there's bound to be a placebo effect of sorts. I think this stuff will give the car more power, therefore I believe it, therefore it does..?!? Urr, I take it you haven't seen the pictures of what has happened to some zeds run on 95 ron then? Sorry I haven't... I know this is a well discussed topic but I am not familiar I'm just a cynical sod that's all... I think in most instances (for most vehicles) it probably makes no difference - but it may very well do for the 350z? Where there's a product to sell there will always be potentially biased information directed towards selling that product..?!? Of course I am not suggesting that folk on here have anything to gain... I'm just talking in general. I primarily use the super stuff so I am not immune to my own cynicism..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 very true, for most vehicles it makes no difference, as the car is setup for 95 and so running on 98 gives nothing extra. however if a car is setup to run optimally on 98, switching to 95 will be detrimental. maybe not a catastrophic engine failure, just less top end power and economy suffers slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingPower Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Interesting this... But let's not forget the hordes of people who own a 350z but do not use this forum... and probably therefore are not as in love with the car as we are... they are more likely to put 95 in..? And the car hardly has any significant reliability issues against it's name. Also, has there ever been a reliable, well controlled and unbiased test to see if the higher stuff makes any difference to performance? I don't think you can really trust your own judgement on the road... there's bound to be a placebo effect of sorts. I think this stuff will give the car more power, therefore I believe it, therefore it does..?!? Urr, I take it you haven't seen the pictures of what has happened to some zeds run on 95 ron then? Sorry I haven't... I know this is a well discussed topic but I am not familiar I'm just a cynical sod that's all... I think in most instances (for most vehicles) it probably makes no difference - but it may very well do for the 350z? Where there's a product to sell there will always be potentially biased information directed towards selling that product..?!? Of course I am not suggesting that folk on here have anything to gain... I'm just talking in general. I primarily use the super stuff so I am not immune to my own cynicism..! viewtopic.php?f=17&t=58599&hilit=Unleaded+Damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I'll always use Vpower unless there's a strike going on. If that's the case then around here it's a take whatever you can get unfortunately. I've only ever filled the Zed up with Vpower so far though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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