Chesterfield Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Can anyone help - Im not usually prone to such daft ideas, but I have one which I am investigating, more details only if it proves to be viable. One piece of information I would like to know is whether there is any legislation on how large a hole can be that is excavated in your own garden and remains well within your own property boundary? Anybody know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi-glasgow Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Do you mean how deep it can be or how big in circumference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 are you having one of those ground source heat pump things or are you just building an underground sex dungeon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 OK, sounds daft, but seeing the house stew posted gave me an idea on the extra garage I wanted to build. Rather than have the front of the house dominated by garages, I was pondering the posibility of building a double or triple garage under the front garden with vertical hydraulic lifts and having the tops still retain the turf of the lawn, ala Thunderbirds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 sounds expensive!! I know when i've seen them doing similar on that grand designs thing the main problem is getting it water tight! Probably be cheaper to move house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 It seems not only is it possible to do what Im thinking of doing, but there are companies that can do it for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 OK, sounds daft, but seeing the house stew posted gave me an idea on the extra garage I wanted to build. Rather than have the front of the house dominated by garages, I was pondering the posibility of building a double or triple garage under the front garden with vertical hydraulic lifts and having the tops still retain the turf of the lawn, ala Thunderbirds. Sounds and looks Do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Although underground, the 'development' you have have in mind will require planning permssion as it is the the front garden. Now if it were at the side or back, or formed a basement level in the garage..... Its the 'purpose' to which the operation serves that matters. If you simply decided you wanted a landscaped hole in your garden then that could be argued as not requiring planning permission but now you have indicated the purpose you will probably have to think of parking your Ferrari elsewhere I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 does look bloody cool though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugara Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 http://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/ Might help, else call your local council planning offices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 regarding how big/deep and how close to a neighbour you can dig, the Party Wall Act 1996 applies (amongst other things such as Planning Law, Building Regulations etc.) See page 26 in the explanatory booklet on this page http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/professionals/buildingregs/legislation/bccurrentlegislation/bcpartywalletcact As a rule of thumb never ever excavate to a depth lower than a line at 45 degrees extending from the underside of any foundations and then only if the ground is stable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4XNY Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Correct Attak, As a Groundworker, I dig a lot of holes! Basically you have to ensure your not undermining neighbours (or your own foundations) Therefore You usually keep a metre off neighbouring walls, which is roughly the 45 degree thing. What a lot of people dont realise on these kind of projects, is the amount of muck (earth) you'll be shifting, you could be talking about 10-20 20 tonne lorry loads... at £200 a pop, its not cheap. You then have to tank it (waterproof) it, and run electrics etc to it. And above all else, it has to be safe..... Often means trench sheets, or a big box in which to work in, even these can be about £200 a week to hire...... So yeah, its feasible, you. will need a big digger, and anything can be done for the right money, but as they say there are £1000's in the ground and £100's above it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 Hmmm certainly some info to consider, but if it's doable then it may be a reserve plan of the above ground option were to be rejected on being "unsightly" or something like that. Still cool though, which is quite a draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 take video when complete! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 In all seriousness I wonder how the insurance companies would view this parking arrangement? Is it garaged or on drive? What would the issues be if the car were damaged by the garage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 i would guess at garaged. and prob count as the roof falling in on your garage if something went wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 That sounds ace I have always liked the idea of an underground garage with a turn table... drive in and drive out I hope your not prone to any sort of flooding, you could end up with a 3 car underground swimming pool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 This is in the UK: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I hope your not prone to any sort of flooding, you could end up with a 3 car underground swimming pool I was about to ask at what level the water table is in your area Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 This might help: http://www.istructe.org/publications/new-pubdetails.asp?PID=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 sarnie that is beyond cool!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkwright Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 having just been reading elsewhere on the forum, i don't think there are any laws against digging a hole to bury a cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 having just been reading elsewhere on the forum, i don't think there are any laws against digging a hole to bury a cat. Quite an extreme length to hide it though eh, better off selling it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shire350Z Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 im loving that idea chris the expenisve part would be the mechanism lifting unit!! making it waterproof wouldnt be a problem as we'd just 'tank' it like you do a a cellar and the top section would be waterproofed by the companies unit and that 'should' be fine as its tried and tested!! be interesting to know what money your taking for the unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stesrg Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Hi seen these a few years back, some are fitted with a sump with built in water pump so if you get a flood etc the pump automaticaly starts up ,,, the ideas are endless ... dig hole fabricate steel frame (using load tests etc) source 4 hydraulic rams a pump , limit switches etc etc . . could be done on the cheap if you are mechanicaly / fabricated background .... like myself Ste . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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