I think it has served quite a good point Martin - it shows that while we all like a bit of banter, it has been heading in a direction that many find offensive. 60% of the votes cast say that BM has gone too far, that is quite clear. Hopefully everyone will take note of that, and agree with me in that we all want a chatty lively forum, but there is a line and as Chris said earlier, if in doubt, dont post it