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As others have said, I think there's much more to it than outright performance. Hot hatches have been capable of embarassing more exotic machinery for a long time now. I personally chose the z because I wanted a good looking coupe with a characterful engine and a solid RWD chassis

Lovely motors mate... the Supra's such a timeless shape. I have a feeling the 350z will also age just as well Welcome

I didn't think the horn on the z was so bad actually. The courtesy Punto I had years ago had a truly pathetic horn!

No doubt that's true, but those different buyers would demand a high quality interior I would have thought. My mate who's driven his boss's Carrera S said that my z is more comfortable

Sorry, might have misread the OP. I guess the question is whether it would be worth switching the HFCs for test pipes and get the XYZ with race cat, rather than sticking with the HFCs - I'm afraid someone more knowledgable on the subject will have to advise you! You would need cats of some kind to pass the MOT, unless you have a buddy who is willing to do a dodgy one for you...

Ooh very nice. I was able to pic myself up some work vs-xx that I'm super happy about. Nice one mate. You're getting the z back today from the bodyshop, right? Are the wheels ready to go on as well? Exciting times

Gram Lights 57xtreme. Pics will be up when they're on

It's the same wheels as I ordered and returned so they are 9.5 et12 front 10.5 et12 rear Thanks mate. Getting soooo excited about my rims arriving (hopefully in a month's time)

Looks sweet mate How wide are they?

Indeed, not to mention disastrous for the economy.

How disappointing... I thought maybe they were going to change the test criteria so that people actually had to know how to drive before they passed.

I've already decided what my next car will be, even though it's a few years off... Audi R8 Edit: More appropriate smiley, and that is unless my overwhelming desire for an R32 GT-R doesn't win the day...

So would you be replacing the HFCs with test pipes then? I'd start by talking to Mark at Abbey if you're still looking for info, as I know he has lots of experience with these, and has posted on here about how legal for MOTs they are.

Welcome I've had mine for a few months now, and haven't regretted buying it for a second

I don't really know what your point is. What are YOU doing to help these people? Or are you saying you don't care and what's more don't publicly profess to care and therefore innocent of any hypocrisy? Glad you asked. My point has been to highlight the root cause of this crisis, right down to the dying children on beaches. After all, we all have objectively good lives here, right? I'd imagine, given the subject matter of this forum, that everyone here has a luxurious life - it IS a luxury to be concerned about the wellbeing of which luxury car to buy, or where to get it serviced, or which modification to carry out next, all deliberated over from the comfort of a secure home. It's the same situation, relatively speaking, with almost everyone in the western world who claims to truly care about these crises. So, back to the root cause - in brief, there are countries where resources are lacking, and only a few people are privileged enough to have a good life, and where the underprivileged live a life of near death, so much so that they're forced to take a perilous boat trip to seek a real life. The privileged aren't selfless enough to share the resources, so this situation persists. So the debate I'm trying to provoke is, who out of the privileged sympathisers living their comfortable, privileged life in their confortable home, in a wealthy country, would actually be so sympathetic if they were in that situation in a war torn country, that they wouldn't look after themselves? It's human nature to look after no.1. I've helped people out in superficial ways too. In fact I like to think I always would try to. But if I was in a life or death situation in a shitty country (or even if I had to significantly dent my disposable income to help someone else), you'd best believe I'd help myself first, and I'm pretty sure nearly everyone else here would too. In fact it doesn't even have to be life or death - just that if you were part of the privileged few in a poor country, you'd probably rather stay part of that few than to help out the poverty stricken others. And so you end up with the reason why these things will always be a part of the world, and my original point about people's "mock sympathy" on the internet, because most people wouldn't bat an eyelid if it meant losing their comfortable life.

I guess it's just a shame that all the selfless, caring people are concentrated in the rich, western countries, rather than in Syria and all those other ****ed up countries

What absolute horseshit, have quick look on here for threads asking for help and the responses they get from advice to other members viewing cars at opposite ends of the country, all for free and with no expectation of reward or return. There's plenty of other threads about sick relatives, charity efforts, money raising and this place is just a car forum. If you only care about yourself, that's fine, but dont pretend to yourslef you're like that because everyone else is and that it's ok. fair enough - I'm very conscious of the fact that there are better people in the world than me. It's just that the ratio of people that like to sound like good people vs the people that would actually commit a selfless act to help someone else is, in my experience, very high. Hypocrisy is the only thing I really despise EDIT: due to retarded phone

Express mock outrage on the internet all you want - nearly every person only cares about themselves, and that's why people will always die at the hands of other people, in the name of religion or whatever else.

Yeah I always try to park next to another nice car which looks cared for

Everyone dies in the end... to do it quickly and painlessly while having fun, and not injure anyone else is probably as good a way as any!

Impressive stats, but it's not for an old fashioned petrolhead like me. I'll stick with my glorious V6

Very nice would you mind sharing the sizes and offsets (and spacers if used)?

Welcome Jamie. For reference, I paid 12,800 for my 58 HR, 54,000 miles, sat nav, alezan leather. It seemed a touch on the high side, but the car felt right and I haven't regretted it for a second!

A bit odd, but I can't think of any sinister situation that would cause the seller to lie about the colour!

Should've done it before the Woodman