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So whats the difference between hiring a car for two years and hiring one for a day? You still get something for your money - you get to drive a new car, just paying for the depreciation along the way. You aren't paying off any of the capital towards purchasing an asset, but so what - maybe you dont want the asset, you just want to use it for a period of time and then hand it back. If you purchase a car outright, then the depreciation is dead money. You just don't see it going every month, it just goes in one big chunk when you sell or trade in the car. Its swings and roundabouts and horses for courses imho.

As you have identified, comparing a brand new car with one a few years old is not really a comparison. However, does the "extra" 80% seem worth it to be in a brand new car? For me, probably not. For others then it would mean a lot. Some people have never owned a car from brand spanking new, and to do so would be special. Others are happy to buy a few years old and just get a well looked after example and save the money. For me, I seem to have recently taken to getting ex demo cars. The dealers often make next to no margin on an ex demo car and often its just a case of shifting it quickly to make room for the next demo car they have already ordered. With the money saved over list price, get it booked in for a full valet, even of the dealership has already cleaned it - and it feels like a brand new car - as you are the second owner after the dealership, for me its as close as you can get to brand new, without actually buying brand new. Financially we would all be better off riding scooters or having an old fiat tipo to drive round in, but wheres the fun in that. As long as you dont do something really daft like remortgage your home to buy a set of wheels, then as long as you are happy with what you drive and what it costs you, then you cant say fairer than that.

Id walk from that mess all day long. Car not taxed, left on public roads, not insured, cant possibly have been taxed online as they wouldnt have either the V5 or the renewal reminder refference in order to do so. How is the guy baffled as to why he is still the registered keeper? What has he been doing with all the tax/sorn reminders that the dvla send to the registered keeper for the last 3 years? Sounds like a right old mess. All you need now is a letter from a finance company landing on your door when the car gets registered in your name and you will have covered just about every "walk away from this" alarm I can think of. The current keeper (or should I say guardian whom leaves it on the road outside his house) has created all this mess by never getting round to registering the car in his name and never taxing/insuring it and leaving it on the public road. What exactly did they expect? Id leave well alone if I were you, but as the V5 is now being registered in your name, then its a bit late. It is to be hoped that the next thing that follows the V5 out of the Swansea office is not a fine of £1,000 for failing to sorn or tax the car. As they will send that to the registered keeper - which in a weeks time or so, will be you.

If the lease hire over two years works out less than the cost of depreciation over the same period, then it makes sense. If the buyer could only ever afford to buy outright with a loan, then the calculation is: If the cost of the lease is less than the cost of depreciation plus the interest on a loan over the same period, then it makes sense. If the buyer would never buy outright either in cash or by way of a loan, then it just boils down to the perceived value for money of the lease and the car you get for the money

Thats if you want to purchase it - if you can hand it back after the £1500 down and two years of £250 a month would mean a total spend of £7500 wouldnt seem too bad depending on how much the car would depreciate if you bought outright - the current model doesn span the last two years so its hard to guage depreciation accurately.

To where would they bring it? ??????? Its a pet peve. Brought = having concluded bringing something. Bought = having concluded buying something.

To where would they bring it?

Four times the cost of an MP4-12C and three times the cost of a 458 spider. Uglier and slower than both too.

I would agree with the comments re bmw. I'm not jaguars biggest fan, but why not use XF's in place of the bmw police cars? It would be nice to at least support the British workers churning out these cars.

I just see it as getting better value for money in clothes. I get lots more fabric for just the same money

Pfff - I was suitably impressed until you cut it in two... And just the two large pizzas? If I wasnt on a diet I'd show you how its done. Mind you, thats probably what got me into the state I am, so Ill sit this one out! Its going to take me a couple of years or more to undo the decade of overeating Ive done!

Thats a good tip. you can search for whatever you like in google followed by "site:350z-uk.com" (without the quote marks) and this will limit your search to results from this site alone. According to google they have about 127,000 search records for our site alone, so you should be abel to find some help there. Normal service will resume eventually.

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Tell the police officer you wish to take out a civil case against them and sue for criminal damage. You should then be furnished with the details necessary to write to, or have your solicitor write to these individuals (or parents thereof) advising you are taking legal action against them. Or alternatively you could pass the names and addresses to Gorgeous George down the pub with a few beer tokens and ask him to "collect" the money on your behalf - Whichever takes your fancy I suppose.

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No you havent missed it - Its not my birthday until 3rd August Have been testing the birthday features out with dates etc Thanks anyway folks

Will be attending tomorrow (hopefully). I have just been and had the summer wheels & tyres swapped over for the wet and muddy ones Though looking at the pictures, I could have probably done with something a bit more extreme. Maybe should have specced the winch after all

Hi and

Excellent effort - looks very good, and you dont see the individual LED lights like you do on most DRL's. Very nice.

Probably the Manchester one, went for a viewing of the coupe some time ago there.

The spider version is coming soon too - got a little invite to go have a look

In all fairness its the X dimension that matters in this poll Cast my vote

Love the evoque, it now gives us Sport drivers a range rover to call the "gay one" just as the Vogue drivers do to us sport drivers I do like them though, very smart looking on the front I think. This is apparently going to be the front end look that will start to adorn all new RR going forward, so I have heard.

I would tend to agree that the outside of the Mclaren is a little lacking compared to its competition, however, the inside is just brilliant. Between the 458 interior and the Mclaren, the Mclaren is a clear winner imho. Its alsve very comfortable too - even for a carbohydrate fan like myself.