Jeff E Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yep, only been into 3 weeks ownership of my Z and done for speeding. Now come on all you Zebedees, admit it, when you got your Zed you felt the need to exercise it a little. So when I received this official looking letter and opened it, to find speeding offence, it was OMG. Reading further it was for 35 mph on a day when I was out with my dear lady doing my ( previously referred) low rev burbles. Never thought I would be pleased to pay £80 and go on a speed awareness course. But if you come up to Suffolk be aware. I was done going on the A12 through Yoxford and apparently they are there regularly. Also on A12, outskirts of Woodbridge there is a dual carriageway section with a 40 mph limit and they are regularly there especially southbound and they stand before the flashing up slow down 40 mph limit sign. They want your money. So if you come to Suffolk and get behind a gun metal Z doing 31/41 mph don't think what's up with this ****. Wait till we reach, what I still call ,the derestricted sign and I'll be off in the hope the OB do not do any speed checks on the more open roads. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Doh, lesson learnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) that's my route to work, or part of it. I head out to Framlingham every morning there are several regular places they like to visit. If your local to the area its well known where they hide. But its also well signposted what the speed is. And that stretch you talk of is a 40 past a school where there is only one crossing with lights and its used by students. It also happens to be my last place of employment. Best advice is stick to the speed limit, can be tempting when it goes to 2 lanes, and traffic often does speed up on that stretch. I've just had to remind myself every day to watch the needle and not follow the flow of traffic. Edited September 13, 2014 by rtbiscuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I have to play Russian Roulette with up to 20 to 30 speed cameras a day in London. Touch wood, none have caught me yet..!! . I use the digital display right in front of me for the speedometer as I find looking at the analogue speedo in traffic is difficult to get an accurate reading 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff E Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Thanks WW, I now use your technique. Don't have cruise control and this cuts out if you touch the brake. Nissan , Quashky now fit a speed limiter which stays permanently on until disabled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheff Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Police forces, sorry services, are spending millions of pounds on ANPR systems to catch criminals using the roads. Yet they are also spending thousands of pounds on hand held cameras that film, which is then used as evidence, to prosecute everyday motorists. No need to stop the car at all, they just download the footage I'm not sure what other people's views are but personally I think that a level of discretion should be shown by police, something that can't be done by cameras, they should be stopping people and talking to them, getting into their cars if necessary, searching them, checking insurance etc. not standing by the side of the road generating figures and pissing off normal people. Lazy policing and hardly giving a good image to the public. I got done by one doing 46 going into a 50 zone from a 30. He was stood about 10 metres (I'm not exaggerating) from the 50mph sign. Now I know technically that is wrong but surely words of advice would have sufficed. Luckily he didn't stop me though, or he would have discovered that I was drunk, had no insurance and a dead body in the boot. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 A friend of mine was on a speed awareness course recently, also on there was a 72 year old lady who was out shopping, never had a conviction in 40 years but was done for 32 in a 30 limit..!!! WTF..!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheff Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 32 in a 30 they would never prosecute for Charging guidelines make allowances for speed limit + 10% + 2mph to allow for discrepancies with speedos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 32 in a 30 they would never prosecute for Charging guidelines make allowances for speed limit + 10% + 2mph to allow for discrepancies with speedos Yes I'm sure they had already applied that calculation and the answer was 32..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 32 in a 30 they would never prosecute for Charging guidelines make allowances for speed limit + 10% + 2mph to allow for discrepancies with speedos Yes I'm sure they had already applied that calculation and the answer was 32..!! but the rule of 10% means you can legally do 33 in a 30, 44 in a 40 55 in a 50 etc etc etc the lowest you'd get a ticket is 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheff Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Copied from the CPS website, for those who can't do maths Speed Enforcement The Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) has issued speed enforcement policy guidance, which suggests that enforcement will normally occur when a driver exceeds the speed limit by a particular margin. This is normally 10 per cent over the speed limit plus 2 mph. It also sets guidelines for when it would not be appropriate to issue a fixed penalty notice but to issue a summons instead (see below). Note that these are guidelines and that a police officer has discretion to act outside of them providing he acts fairly, consistently and proportionately. Speed limit: 20 mph ACPO charging threshold: 24 mph Summons: 35 mph Speed limit: 30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mph Speed limit: 40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mph Speed limit: 50 mph ACPO charging threshold: 57 mph Summons: 76 mph Speed limit: 60 mph ACPO charging threshold: 68 mph Summons: 86 mph Speed limit: 70 mph ACPO charging threshold: 79 mph Summons: 96 mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 So she would need to be doing 38 to be prosecuted at 32..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Here's the new law proposed for next year. :scare: New speeding laws could mean a ban at just 32mph A stunning 'zero tolerance' policy on speeding was unveiled last night. The dramatic crackdown could see bans for drivers who never exceed limits by more than 2mph. To the horror of motoring organisations, Home Office Minister Bob Ainsworth said he wants to press ahead with a major revision of the tottingup procedure. It could mean disqualification for being caught going just one mile an hour too fast on three occasions, 6mph too fast twice, or 16mph over the limit once. The 'margin for error' in current police guidelines, to allow for inaccurate speedometers, would be scrapped. The draconian plan was buried in a Home Office statement about longer jail sentences for drivers who kill. Ministers are braced for a massive backlash and have promised to consult further over the details. But campaign groups said tinkering with limits and fines would still leave a totally unacceptable scheme. 'This is completely the wrong approach - that if you stick to a number on the speedometer you are safe and if you go one mile over it you are a killer,' said Mark McArthur-Christie of the Association of British Drivers. Kevin Delaney, of the RAC Foundation, said: 'These plans will lead to more people watching their speedometers instead of the road, and that will not increase safety.' Critics pointed out that Britain already has the safest roads in Europe, even though the average speed on motorways is estimated at 85mph. They said the plan would be another hammer blow for motorists already struggling to cope with thousands more speed cameras, soaring company car taxation, high fuel prices and the prospect of tolls to drive into London and other cities. Under current laws, most drivers caught speeding get a £60 fixed-penalty ticket and three points on their licence. Anyone reaching 12 points - or exceeding any limit by 30mph - can be banned for a period fixed by magistrates. Police also generally overlook speeds below a level of the limit plus 10 per cent plus 2mph. That equates to 35mph in a 30 zone and 79mph on a motorway. Under the new rules, the points limit will be 20, but more points will be imposed for each offence and the speeds involved will be far lower. There would also be a new £90 fine for faster drivers. The Home Office wants the scheme phased in over two years. Mr Ainsworth presented the crackdown as part of a wider blitz on danger drivers. The other measures include: An increase in the maximum jail term for causing death by dangerous driving from 10 to 14 years; Bigger fines for using a mobile phone while driving - under the existing law about proper control of a vehicle; Tough, flexible community penalties' for some motorists convicted of speeding, careless or uninsured driving; Possible higher penalties for drink-drive motorists caught with double the alcohol limit; A 'weekend disqualification' system to let drivers use their cars for work. Mr Ainsworth said: 'The message is clear - dangerous driving kills and those found guilty can expect to be severely punished. We are not interested in penalising the law-abiding motorists, the vast majority of drivers. The measures will affect only those who commit offences.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheff Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) There is no 32mph limit anywhere in the country. If she was doing 32mph in a 30 zone she would fall within the allowance. The only way she would have been done at 32mph is if it was in a 20mph zone The above would be impossible to put in place. Everybody would appeal the tight ones because of the inaccuracy in speedos. It would cause a bigger problem and delay in the justice system than is already there. What gets me about all this speed kills bollocks is that it is perfectly safe to be driving at higher speeds if it is done sensibly and away from built up areas. We've all done it, anyone who says they haven't is a liar. They spend fortunes on catching people speeding, what they need to do is put that money into putting more police on the roads to catch the people driving like tossers, that's when speed becomes dangerous. The ones that are in and out of traffic, if they get flashed they get 3 points, nothing is done about their dangerous manner of driving Edited September 13, 2014 by theheff 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsniss350z Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I've got to admit when i picked mine up i drove it like i'd stolen it for about 10 minutes and then reality kicked in as i'already been on a speed awareness course a couple of years previously but i definitely found out that it wasn't a restricted Jap import. I don't honestly see the point in driving like a teenager on the road, thats what trackdays are for. I also value my clean license. Just you watch I'll get pulled for something now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGT4 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 its all for your safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-B Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I got caught a few years ago when in early ownership of a zed but I'm not going to tell my story now incase I get handed the BS card 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 That reminds me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 There is no 32mph limit anywhere in the country. If she was doing 32mph in a 30 zone she would fall within the allowance. The only way she would have been done at 32mph is if it was in a 20mph zone The above would be impossible to put in place. Everybody would appeal the tight ones because of the inaccuracy in speedos. It would cause a bigger problem and delay in the justice system than is already there. What gets me about all this speed kills bollocks is that it is perfectly safe to be driving at higher speeds if it is done sensibly and away from built up areas. We've all done it, anyone who says they haven't is a liar. They spend fortunes on catching people speeding, what they need to do is put that money into putting more police on the roads to catch the people driving like tossers, that's when speed becomes dangerous. The ones that are in and out of traffic, if they get flashed they get 3 points, nothing is done about their dangerous manner of driving Don't worry it's just another of Will's 'stories' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 That reminds me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I got caught a few years ago when in early ownership of a zed but I'm not going to tell my story now incase I get handed the BS card Now that is a cool story bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 As Heff said, she was in the allowance margin, someone is telling you porkies Will Sent from my Zed using Nangkang tyres front, RE040's rear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Oh, Will 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 This could be a cool one for supposition I was in the 997cc Seat Arosa (blissfully unaware of my speed - 'cos it just don't go that fast) - entered a 30mph zone on a steep downhill...........I was slowing down but just not enough - saw a camera van (oh, sh!t) - brakes, brakes - my speedo said 34 Will i get a ticket - This was Wednesday - we await the results who thinks I'll get one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny cobra Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Me JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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