crucial Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Can anyone definitively confirm that, if the car has a rev counter that redlines at 7500 it's definetly a 316, and if it redlines at 7000 it's a 280? I am having all sorts of problems getting nissan dealers to confirm the horsepower of the cars im enquiring about, and it seems some early bulging bonnet ones may only have the 280 engine in them, despite the facelift bonnet. What is the simple way to tell if it is 280 or 316? I am only looking at roadsters, not coupes, (which seems to make it even more difficult) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 The 313bhp cars have a bonnet bulge and 2 air intakes. Easiest way to tell the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucial Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thank you 350Russ. I am seeing some bonnet bulge roadsters being listed on nissans site as 280's in the specsheet's, could this just be an error on the description's, or is it that some 280 hp engines were put into bulging bonnet models, phoning and asking does not give much information, as salesmen on the end of the phones dont always seem to be sure. The spec sheets on nissans used car locater seem to be all over the place!, many bulging bonnet roadsters are listed as 280's. Confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 There is no difference in bhp figures between roadsters or coupe's if they are in the same model year (MY) The bhp figures you mention above are all incorrect. (VQ35DE)276 bhp engine was used until approx May 06 (VQ35DE)296 bhp engine was used in the GT4 05 then used from May 06 (VQ35HR)313 though i think that is the ps rating and not bhp was in cars with the bonnet bulge and has dual intakes and i think this was 07 iirc Been discussed many times before, if you do a search you should find this subject covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thank you 350Russ. I am seeing some bonnet bulge roadsters being listed on nissans site as 280's in the specsheet's, could this just be an error on the description's, or is it that some 280 hp engines were put into bulging bonnet models, phoning and asking does not give much information, as salesmen on the end of the phones dont always seem to be sure. The spec sheets on nissans used car locater seem to be all over the place!, many bulging bonnet roadsters are listed as 280's. Confusing. If they are coming from Nissan and they have the bonnet bulge you can be 99% sure that they are MY07 (313bhp) cars....there is obviously a 1% chance that someone bought a MY06, put a MY07 bonnet on it and then sold it back to Nissan, but that is very very unlikely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT4 Zed Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 There is no difference in bhp figures between roadsters or coupe's if they are in the same model year (MY) The bhp figures you mention above are all incorrect. (VQ35DE)276 bhp engine was used until approx May 06 (VQ35DE)296 bhp engine was used in the GT4 05 then used from May 06 (VQ35HR)313 though i think that is the ps rating and not bhp was in cars with the bonnet bulge and has dual intakes and i think this was 07 iirc Correct on all accounts Dave. the PS and BHP figures always get noobs confused VQ35DE: 276 BHP = 280PS VQ35DE Revup: 296BHP = 300PS VQ35HR: 309BHP = 313PS Dual intakes is the most distinguishing feature in the HR as mentioned for the nth time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcash5 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Anyone else REALLY bored of these repeated threads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMe Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Anyone else REALLY bored of these repeated threads? No. No. No. I I like like repetition repetition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 If they bore you dont read them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucial Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ok guys, sorry if im boring you. Now heres the reason for my questions, which according some here may consider "noob", however, i hope the forum will accept people like me who, obviously, know a lot less than you guys. Please try to remember, we all come to forums to gain friendly experience, and if we dont ask questions, how can we get answers? The main reason i am confused, is because if you go to nissans used car search, and put in used 350z roadsters, the tech sheets describe most 07's as 280@6200 rpm. Now, after asking the questions here, it appears this is wrong. I hasten to add, even some bulging bonnet ones are tech sheeted as 280@6200. Only a few of the 08 onwards are described as 313@6800, and maybe 1 of the 07's there has the 313 rating. The reason some of my hp figures were a little out is because i just kind of rounded them up, knowing the experience of members here would know roughly what i meant. I hope this helps to explain my "noobness". Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Not a problem mate, happy to answer any questions you want to ask. There is always a lot of confusion in dealers adverts and I guess the Nissan dealers have the same problems. The best and most definitive way to be sure is by asking about the double intakes. The 313 engine needs the bonnet with the bulge so it will fit. Some guys put the new bonnet on the older car though so this may cause confusion. Double intake = 313, 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacW Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Not a problem to most of us if you post asking for clarification on specifics. As for dealers specs, you have to remember that Nissan dealers sell Micras and Qashqais. Occasionally someone really inconveniently trades in one of those strange 350 thingies at which point they have to quickly Google some stuff to put on the sales card. I'd imagine some dealers would have to go away and double check if you asked them for a 4 door 350z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Nissan dealers aren't known on here for their knowledge of 350zs. Best way clear up if it's a 309bhp model rather than 276bhp or 296bhp model is to see a pic under the bonnet 276 / 296 309 All 309s MUST have the bonnet bulge (not two creases on the bonnet) as the never engine physically will not fit. The differences between the 276 and 296 can be seen pretty much through the interior. Feel free to post links to cars that you would like clarification on. Also, don't worry about the 'noob' comments. Some people can just be arrogant a-holes. Maybe they are suffering from manstration this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky370z Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ok guys, sorry if im boring you. Now heres the reason for my questions, which according some here may consider "noob", however, i hope the forum will accept people like me who, obviously, know a lot less than you guys. Please try to remember, we all come to forums to gain friendly experience, and if we dont ask questions, how can we get answers? The main reason i am confused, is because if you go to nissans used car search, and put in used 350z roadsters, the tech sheets describe most 07's as 280@6200 rpm. Now, after asking the questions here, it appears this is wrong. I hasten to add, even some bulging bonnet ones are tech sheeted as 280@6200. Only a few of the 08 onwards are described as 313@6800, and maybe 1 of the 07's there has the 313 rating. The reason some of my hp figures were a little out is because i just kind of rounded them up, knowing the experience of members here would know roughly what i meant. I hope this helps to explain my "noobness". Thanks. i hate all the noob bashing that happens on any internet forum. (TBH this site isnt that bad for it, but the STOC was.) we have ALL been noobs at some point in our lives. that is what these forums are for. there are loads of knowledgeable people on here that will answer a question, no matter how stupid!!!! god, i have asked some clangers in the past!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Nissan dealers aren't known on here for their knowledge of 350zs. Best way clear up if it's a 309bhp model rather than 276bhp or 296bhp model is to see a pic under the bonnet All 309s MUST have the bonnet bulge (not two creases on the bonnet) as the never engine physically will not fit. The differences between the 276 and 296 can be seen pretty much through the interior. Feel free to post links to cars that you would like clarification on. Also, don't worry about the 'noob' comments. Some people can just be arrogant a-holes. Maybe they are suffering from manstration this week. Theres also a slight difference on the timing cover between the 276 & 296 models, A pretty certain way to distinguish between a DE & a Rev-up 276 DE 296 Rev Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimm Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 If they bore you dont read them. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 i hate all the noob bashing that happens on any internet forum. (TBH this site isnt that bad for it, but the STOC was.) we have ALL been noobs at some point in our lives. that is what these forums are for. there are loads of knowledgeable people on here that will answer a question, no matter how stupid!!!! god, i have asked some clangers in the past!!!! Well said - We all have to start somewhere and after a while we can start helping others, and if it so boring then just move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Do import engines look different chaps? Was there ever a definitive power output for them?? (I read they were slighly more powerful than the UK cars) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Do import engines look different chaps? Was there ever a definitive power output for them?? (I read they were slighly more powerful than the UK cars) Import engines are no different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ian is that DE running ITB's? if so a link please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ian is that DE running ITB's? if so a link please. It is Thats all the info I have on it though as I believe Adam abandoned the project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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