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Triple lock I can live with for a couple of years, got any details on the others at all? Just a link will do bud

Boris is second behind Rees-Mogg as the cleverest, most knowledgable and down to earth politician I know of. I really rate the guy, and it's because of his foppish attitude that I believe he could really galvanise people. I agree with the rest though, but that's exactly what I mean about being a good PM but a poor leader.

Lacks torque? It's 6% less, and the extra 500rpm make it far more enjoyable to drive.

Thinking further about this, I reckon that TM is a very good Prime Minister but a very poor Conservative Party leader. Clearly a capable woman, and I fully trust her to deliver a decent Brexit deal, but she has no idea of drumming up support and putting the right faces out at the right times.

Everyone still going Sunday? Early start, they want us in from 0730 rather than the usual 0900.

Man of principle? Couldn't be further from the truth. Hates the EU but campaigned Remain, hates nuclear weapons but suddenly now supports them, spent years arguing against his own leaders until became one and now just picks the popular things to promise to the world. He's as bad as any two-faced politician (and there's a few of them). He's smarmy as hell, but it plays better to the cameras than TM's aloofness.

The PLP love him, it's his MPs that didn't trust him to lead them to glory. I suspect a few of them may have changed their minds now. I still think he's bonkers and borderline dangerous, but at the same time I'm very impressed with his turnaround.

Seems fine to me. I try and aim for 8 hours so bed at 2300 and alarm is set for 0700, but often I won't fall asleep until 0000 and am awake at 0600 when the cat meows in my face. I feel absolutely fine, that's normal for me now. I can survive on 4 hours sleep, but will grab a quick nap in the evening before bed if I do that.

And the people of Hackney wonder why they live in poverty and squalor: Well, if you're thick enough to vote for Abbott then you're hardly going to be a brain surgeon are you!

Labour were selling a golden ticket to the middle class youth, and they bought it hook, line and sinker. I can't say I blame them in fairness, and in a way it's a shame that Corbyn didn't get in so they can see just how much bull he was selling them, but that will come with time. The good thing about lots of young 'uns voting now is that when they grow up and realise how the world works, that's plenty of people to vote Tory instead. I don't blame Corbyn or Labour for this mess at all though. I congratulate them on a fantastic campaign, they did exactly what they needed to do. Whoever advised TM needs firing, and if it all came from her then she's the one that needs firing instead.

It seemed like such a good idea six weeks ago, but then that was before May decided to shut herself in a room and not bother campaigning. I just don't get their strategy. Where was May? Where the hell was Boris, the most likeable Tory for decades? Or Rees-Mogg, someone else people like? Why did they not see that their strategy wasn't working and flood the country & media with faces and soundbites and decent policies even a couple of weeks ago? And why of why oh why even mention the dementia tax thing? Despite it being significantly better than the option we have now, it was never ever going to be a popular measure. Honestly, this is the least successful campaign since the Argies took a shine to the Falklands.

Not sure mate but have a read here https://fullfact.org...ts-brexit-deal/ in another of TMs folding under pressure moments she promised a parliamentary vote on the exit deal. Perfect, I couldn't remember what was said/agreed. Shame, as otherwise even a minority government could simply push through a Brexit deal, but if the majority now have to agree on it... Let's be honest though, whatever deal the Tories get Labour, LD and the SNP won't be happy with and will vote against it. Petty point scoring.

Do we know if the sitting government HAVE to put the Brexit deal to a vote? Like legally have to, rather than just probably should to keep things nice?

Buuuurrrrrrn

More people voting is always a good thing, even if they're voting in the way I'd like them to.

I did have to chuckle at the collapse of the SNP. IndyRef2 doesn't seem to be terribly popular does it?!

Labour will never win a majority with Corbyn in charge, and clearly May never will either. Needs BoJo and The Other Milliband for a proper contest.

I'm not even sure a new GE in a few months would give a different result. It would need the Tories to do something massively different to get a majority, which basically means BoJo. I love that guy, but I'm not convinced I want him in place for Brexit talks. Labour are a billion miles from a majority, even with the best election campaign for years, so there's nothing really more they can do there. Either way, this is all happening at the worst possible time, both for Brexit and for the markets as my holibob money will now cost me a shedload more

Well, I'm sure Corbyn is happy but this result really helps no-one at all. Can't see TM sticking around, she's dropped a huge b*llock here. However, on the upside Salmond lost his seat :lol: Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

I would genuinely rather Labour win outright than have a hung parliament, as that would likely mean a coalition of Labour, SNP, LD and Green to get them over the magic mark for power. That is just going to be one massive clusterf*ck. If it's that badly hung, I suspect we'll get another election in six months if that.

Can I get an x-ray vision ocular implant?

Agreed, anything is better than nothing.

I don't see how that would be effective. Either someone will come forward and do it for them (friend or sympathiser), or they won't care because they'll see these people as non-true believers and wouldn't want to be given a funeral by them anyway. I mean, it's a nice gesture and a definite step forward, but I can't see it stopping anything. These people are so far beyond normal Islam anyway, anything can be twisted to suit a purpose.

YT some videos, even the best waxes don't compare to the sheeting effect of water over a coated surface.

Gentlemen, can I suggest we simply stop responding to Strudel's comments in threads like this? Every time he posts it seems to take us off track with regards to how he likes to focus on things and how the rest of us cannot see just how he comes to these conclusions. I humbly suggest that we never will, and neither do I think he brings anything to the table in terms of moving these debates forward. All we are doing is 'feeding the troll', and that's not making for adult discussions at all as it's becoming Us vs Him. That's not great for the forum, and I'll be the first to stand here and suggest it's not making great reading for others. People like Stu etc I can happily debate with for hours, despite being miles apart in terms of ideas and thoughts. We all have different political POVs, but bickering with Strudel is doing none of us any favours and I suggest we rise above it and stop entertaining him on the more grown-up threads.