rtbiscuit Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 if think you have a burglar cornered, in a locked room, and you block the only exit and you have a cannon of a pistol. Any reasonable man would shout obscenities at the door. Telling said occupants how screwed they were. Most burglars at his point would likely shout. Don't shoot don't shoot. And your missus is likely to tell you to stop being a bell end. So what reasonable man shoots, not one, not 2, not even 3 shots through a door, but 4 rounds without an inclination for who might be on the other side. And if you have someone cornered why not ring the police? He's guilty as sin, just not enough direct evidence to nail him for it. Most likely if the judge is any good, she'll give him the next severe punishment, which should be 10 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 He's as innocent as OJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 What if he thought Reeva was unconscious, or dead? Just because she wasn't in bed, didn't mean she must be in the bathroom. Personally, I'm inclined to think it was a horrible accident. Maybe he was a bit trigger happy, but in SA you've got to be when it cones to protecting yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 What if he thought Reeva was unconscious, or dead? Just because she wasn't in bed, didn't mean she must be in the bathroom. Personally, I'm inclined to think it was a horrible accident. Maybe he was a bit trigger happy, but in SA you've got to be when it cones to protecting yourself. yes but if someone was in the bathroom you'd expect a response. its not like most people would whisper through the key hole. or here them trying to scrabble through the very tiny window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I know it's not funny as a girl died but it does remind me of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 just think what the result might have been if he were tried here by a jury of his peers..........he'd be screwed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choptop Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I will be glad when the whole thing comes to an end. Bored with hearing about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I don't think he'll walk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Been found guilty of Manslaughter. Should have been MURDER.. :scare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 No, it shouldn't. If it should've been, then it would've been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Thats sort of what I was saying Dan / Will - if it was this country - (most likely) would have been convicted of Murder - Jury of Peers will take emotion and circumstantial evidence into consideration, but as I understand it the African system is via the judge - fact only and the prosecution have failed to prove that he had intent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 We have to prove both actus reus and mens rea, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Here's a good article on how he got away with it.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29162620 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Clearly the law is the law, but common bloody sense is shouting out at me that if someone fires a gun through a door multiple times believing someone else is on the otherside, what other intention is there other than to kill? Even a bullet shot into someones foot can kill them, the second you point a gun and fire at someone whether there is a door in the way or not that is intent to kill surely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinjj Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Today is the day.... Not being an expert on law I'm gonna take a stab at he gets a sentence of 7 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Looks like SA law is just as 'fair' as UK and US law....Big enough wallet and you can literally get away with murder....Next the lawyers will be arguing he shouldn't even be going to prison due to mental anguish/trauma his suffered.....oh wait Democracy, what a load of ###% at least in a dictatorship people are honest about their corruption/abuse of power/money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodder Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Today is the day.... Not being an expert on law I'm gonna take a stab at he gets a sentence of 7 years I think I'll take a shot in the dark and say 4........ Sorry I couldn't resist, both puns intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinjj Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Maximum of 5 years... What a joke.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Out in 10mths. That seems a bit odd, but 5 years certainly seems about right. You'd get that for manslaughter over here, not sure why people were expecting more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Then he can write his book, sell his story and make a ton of money out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Probably. I can't really see him competing at top level events as there's only so much training you can do without competition, so he's going to have to make his money somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINKJ Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Probably. I can't really see him competing at top level events as there's only so much training you can do without competition, so he's going to have to make his money somehow. obviously not as a hitman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Out in 10mths. That seems a bit odd, but 5 years certainly seems about right. You'd get that for manslaughter over here, not sure why people were expecting more. First sensible person I have come across on this topic. Its a very different way of living out in SA versus here.... Though I doubt he will see the inside of a general prison for that long, he will claim disability (even though he claimed the opposite for the Olympics). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Probably. I can't really see him competing at top level events as there's only so much training you can do without competition, so he's going to have to make his money somehow. at least he can be the guy starting the race, atleast he has had previous experience with the tools Edited October 21, 2014 by StevoD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Surely it's going to be difficult to house him in a general prison? A cellmate could very easily take advantage of him. Will he be allowed to keep his prosthetics? He's vulnerable without them and his human rights say he should be allowed them. What about the fact they could very easily be used as a weapon though, not necessarily by Pistorius himself, but I'm sure it wouldn't take long to get them off him between two people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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