FUG Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Well it appears the piston rings on my car are worn , loss of oil , sometimes power , lots of tinted blue smoke out the back especially on start up ... My options appear bleak , the local garages won't touch it , nissan won't strip an enginee only replace with a new one ... What would others do ?? Is it worth the money to sort or just sell it as it is and take a loss ?? I was planning on selling within the year anyway , just has come at the wrong time!! Edited April 5, 2014 by FUG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick350z Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 No specialists near(ish) to you? I guess it depends on how much it's worth if it was running properly, how much it's going to cost to repair it and how much you'd get for it in it's current state. Personally I'd try and get some quotes from some of the traders/garages on here and go from there. Thought about a second hand engine as well? I'm sure I've read on here that you can get a good running one fitted all in for around the £1500 mark? May be worth looking into? Obviously I don't know what you'd be prepared to pay for any of the work either way but I'd definitely get all the numbers together first and see which was the most prudent option. How comes you want to sell up anyway (aside from the unexpected engine problems)? Good luck though with whatever you decide is best :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUG Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 Current car is an 04 de engine gt model with 50,000 miles , mot and serviced last week and taxed this week Few dings and dents on the doors and rear tyres need changing Have had the car 3 years and looking to move out next year but will sorely miss the zed Running well I was thinking maybe £6500 bearing in mind tyres and dents ?? Current state with piston rings what would people think it's worth ? We buy any car reckons 3800 but the declared issues are not tha defined online and I've heard when they come to view it they always peg it down lots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 time for a epic build V8 RB26 worlds your oyster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUG Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 specialist garage quoted me £2400 + VAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Couple of cans of this and then rapidly trade it...!! http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1436.l2649 Edited March 25, 2014 by WhackyWill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Gutted for you dude, but to add some humour to this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonPG Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Bit worrying on a block that has only done 50k!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Have you done a compression test? and I would advise a leak-down test as well it will help diagnose exactly what the problem is, I would not think a DE with 50K on the engine would be suffering from ring seal problems unless severely abused, its the rev-up version that's known for ring seal problems and not the DE. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsybriggs1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Have you done a compression test? and I would advise a leak-down test as well it will help diagnose exactly what the problem is,I would not think a DE with 50K on the engine would be suffering from ring seal problems unless severely abused, its the rev-up version that's known for ring seal problems and not the DE. do what every one on here seems to do go to the zed shed and get buster to fix it :-) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Have you done a compression test? and I would advise a leak-down test as well it will help diagnose exactly what the problem is,I would not think a DE with 50K on the engine would be suffering from ring seal problems unless severely abused, its the rev-up version that's known for ring seal problems and not the DE. do what every one on here seems to do go to the zed shed and get buster to fix it :-) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Just remember the doughnuts, don't go without doughnuts... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 From what you describe it could be valve seats or seals and not rings but neither are a cheaper repair You need a compression test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUG Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Couple of cans of this and then rapidly trade it...!! http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1436.l2649 Tried some wynns no smoke over the weekend and doesn't seem to have made any difference !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUG Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Have you done a compression test? and I would advise a leak-down test as well it will help diagnose exactly what the problem is, I would not think a DE with 50K on the engine would be suffering from ring seal problems unless severely abused, its the rev-up version that's known for ring seal problems and not the DE. Compression test being done this week A few weeks back I was stuck in heavy traffic for a while and the fans packed up , coolant went everywhere needless to say engine got very hot and I was towed home , thinking this excessive heat may have fried the piston rings ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Have you done a compression test? and I would advise a leak-down test as well it will help diagnose exactly what the problem is, I would not think a DE with 50K on the engine would be suffering from ring seal problems unless severely abused, its the rev-up version that's known for ring seal problems and not the DE. Compression test being done this week A few weeks back I was stuck in heavy traffic for a while and the fans packed up , coolant went everywhere needless to say engine got very hot and I was towed home , thinking this excessive heat may have fried the piston rings ?? I think its more likely you have blown a head gasket fella, also get a proper leak-down test done. Edited March 25, 2014 by Tricky-Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) EDIT : Sent as PM instead in case I upset the OP Edited March 25, 2014 by Keyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUG Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 keyser - thanks for the PM , replied to it garage has told me compression test apparently 1.5 hrs and wont necassarily proove anything , are they trying to con me ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT4 Zed Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 keyser - thanks for the PM , replied to it garage has told me compression test apparently 1.5 hrs and wont necassarily proove anything , are they trying to con me ?! I would not go any further without a compression and or leak down test. You can get the compresion kit from halfords for 30quid and do it yourself. As Ricky mentioned it would likely be a gasket failure of some sort rather than rings failing due to overheating but may even be unrelated to both Check you pcv it working and not stuck. In any case the zed shed crew will sort you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Jesus!1 only 50k? And it's bought it? I don't get it. Really sorry for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 keyser - thanks for the PM , replied to it garage has told me compression test apparently 1.5 hrs and wont necassarily proove anything , are they trying to con me ?! Taking the mic! 1/2 hour tops, compression test is just a basic check to see if one cylinder is down, and so could indicate a badly blown HG, broken piston ring, badly seating valve, or worst case scenario hole in piston. However I recommended a leak-down test as this will differentiate between a valve seat problem and ring seal/head gasket, before just dismantling things to find the cause. But based on what you have said about the engine overheating I would be looking to replace the head gasket/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUG Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Unfortunately the work required was too extensive and costly and with the signs of things continuously going wrong it was time to sell ! I am absolutely gutted, loved the car and wanted one ever since i was 17. After 2 years of ownership it came to an abrupt end , i was not ready to let go of her !! This has now given me a kick up the back side to save hard to move out by next year. This does however mean getting a 'sensible' run around so unfortunatly will not be returning to a zed for the foreseeable future. this means a number of goodies will be up for sale soon, will keep you all posted ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Sorry to hear you had to sell it FUG, hope you get back into a Zed soon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm just wondering which garage you went to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUG Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 I think i tried all garages around here! Including my good friends in clacton there was a lot needed doing including new fans and rear tyres , door damage not to mention the engine issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'd concentrate on engine first, door damage and tyres would be lower priority right now. Tried Autofit in Ipswich? Or Team AFM in Martlesham? Or GBH Motorsport in Langham? In that order. If you are willing to venture further, then try DMS in Erith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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