galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Seriously thinking of going to look at one of these today. Wondered if anyone on here would recommend or put me off of getting one. Seeking any advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strudul Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 It's not a question of whether you should get one, but how long it takes Dan to show up and convince you it's the best car ever made 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Sooo tempted. It's a Cayman S, 2006 58,000 miles at £15,000 (12 months mot, full service history) Looks in great condition but not sure if there are hidden negatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strudul Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 This one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Yes that's the one í ½í¸€ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Decisions decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I'm fairly confident Dan's first words will be about getting an inspection, but other than that it'll be positive, especially as it's a manual, apparently without PASM. It's on 19s not 18s though, so he'll have something to hold back on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Sounds like you've heard this one before, Stu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 awaiting dans comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I wouldnt have one if you paid me to be honest, with the engines seemingly made of chocolate you're always going to be at risk of an £8k rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay M1988 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Question why the f are they so god damn cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Seems to be about the right price for its age, marzman has certainly given me some doubts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Seems to be about the right price for its age, marzman has certainly given me some doubts.. Just read this post from Adrian who bought one a few years ago... http://www.350z-uk.com/topic/97666-temporary-toy-for-the-summer-porsche-cayman-s/ They share the same weaknesses as the 996 911 which i had one of. Bore scoring, D-Chunk issues, IMS failure - all resulting in an £8k rebuild required. I read one stat on a 911 forum that probably 25% of cars are effected by these issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Thanks for the link marzman to all the troubles Adrian had. It has put me off to a degree but surely they can't all suffer the same issues. Every old car is a gamble but I guess the possible lossses on this is a major concern. I will have to check what the 6 month warranty covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 A thread with Porsche in the title and 15 posts and no word from Ekona, he must have been abducted by aliens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un1eash Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I've been looking at Caymans for some time now and have been scared off gen1 cars due to the potential problems. Hoping to get a gen2 2.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 On a review on autocar it says "A tiny minority of Gen 1 S 3.4s suffered bore scoring, caused by liners being to thin and inefficient cooling of cylinders five and six" Every used car is a risk and not sure if I should let it put me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay84 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 You can always take out an extended warranty. Ok most warranty companies will send you to Halfords for the work as it saves you having to front the cash first, just pick one that will cover the failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Dan would also say that the rate of fails has become a bit of an internet hobby horse, somewhat overstating the actual rate of fail. There's a really well informed piece by a specialist on this very subject out on the web, let me have a search. Edit - I think this is the one http://www.porscheinspections.com/qanda.php or this one http://www.porscheinspections.com/content/downloads/M96_M97_GTPorsche.pdf PS - Where is Dan? Is he ok? Not slipped getting out the bath? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Sounds like you've heard this one before, Stu Once or twice, but in fairness to the man himself, I'd trust him over most on Beetle content. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I'd wait for a Gen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Thanks for the link marzman to all the troubles Adrian had. It has put me off to a degree but surely they can't all suffer the same issues. Every old car is a gamble but I guess the possible lossses on this is a major concern. I will have to check what the 6 month warranty covers. I'd hasten to add that Adrian also ignored every word of advice put forward by Dan before buying his. Just something to consider when Dan does find this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) Of course, the most practical way to protect yourself from these issues it to get an inspection done on any potential car beforehand... but at £200-300 and a ball ache to organise, its too much of a PITA if you ask me. But then without one you'll always be wondering and listening out for every single little noise! Thats what I did, and its not fun. Edited February 18, 2017 by marzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgazza Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 I kind of made mistakes on the z, my roof stopped working after 2 months, £1,500 later had replaced two motors imported in from Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 HAI GUISE It would appear that my work has been done for me The actual link isn't opening for me right now so I'll be General with my comments but in short: 1. Inspection, inspection, inspection. Even if you don't cough up for a specialist inspection at about £300, for god sake at least get a local garage to do a boroscope inspection. If there's serious bore scoring, walk away. Minor marks are nothing to be worried about though. 2. If you're running 19"s, you'll want PASM unless you hate your spine. These cars are superb on standard suspension amid 18" wheels, much better than with the PASM and any wheel combo. Note this is for gen1 only, gen2 PASM is superb. 3. Assuming the bores are fine, the only other thing that will get you is the IMS going pop. Nowt you can do about this really, you could split the gearbox and engine then replace with new OR remove the internal dust shield which then allows the engine oil to lubricate the IMS bearing rather than it chewing itself to pieces. Either option should give you as good as peace of mind as you can get, and is what I would do should I buy an M96/97 engined car. Labour won't be cheap, if you can time it with a clutch change more the better! 4. Gen1 PCM 2.1 (sat nav) is f*cking dire. Don't worry if the car hadn't got it, you won't miss it! Gen1 Bose also gash, like it is on the 350. Neither applies to the gen2, where they're both excellent. 5. Risk of the engine exploding is about 5-10%. If it goes you're looking at a bill of about £3k-£8k, depending on how much you rebuild. Don't worry too much, but don't go in blind. This is why point number 1 is so important! 6. Enjoy the best sports coupe sensible money can buy. The Cayman is more than just numbers, it's about a pinsharp chassis and a delicate steering rack and a gloriously gutsy engine. That'll do. Always open for a PM discussion if you want. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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