Stutopia Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Just trying to be helpful mate They come from all over to see him, last time I was there a guy had come up from Norwich and one from Northern Ireland, if you ever need a specialist - http://www.grinspeed.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Thanks Stu but really going to leave this as standard as I can. I do have a few ideas for it ~ like having the alloys refurbed (as they are all curbed), maybe an induction kit just for some noise but other than that I want to fight my modding urges as this cars is supposed to be saving me money (well compared to the 350 anyway). It is actually surprisingly economical in comparison to my old Zed though as my best MPG going back & forth to work last week was 31.5MPG. The Zed would have probably been more like 14-17MPG at a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I meant more for any big jobs you might need, not just modding fun. If I see any Mugen goodies lying around I'll just keep it to myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 I meant more for any big jobs you might need, not just modding fun. If I see any Mugen goodies lying around I'll just keep it to myself Cheers Stu and I do appreciate it. It's just that's another reason why I wanted a more "normal" car like the Civic as I know I can take it to pretty much any of the good local independent garages and they'll know what they're doing on it. Don't want to be faffing around driving hundreds of miles to some "specialist" garage anymore no matter how good they are. Such a shame Wales is so s**t for "specialist" car garages/decent mappers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14N Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 No, sorry, not winding you up, just thinking practicality, and, who hasn't had an Astra 1.7 Diesel Turbo up their hoop on a motorway?? Enjoy your new ride, it's cool buddy, but I like vans, when considering costs It's cool. I like the look of it, has a lot more room than the Zed, cheaper to run and it will pi** all over Derv Astra vans. Haha It's funny you should mention Astra Vans. My friend was competing at TOTB ( Ten of the Best) yesterday in the FWD class. In the quarter mile timings, there are a couple of the aforementioned vans and some CTR's too. I'll let the results do the rest.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJRamze Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Looks like a tidy car bud, like others have said I'm still in shock that you got rid of the zed, although I do understand!! Good luck with the house etc and if you get really zed sick you can always revisit my build thread no where near as epic as yours but still pretty Thanks Lyndzzz. Cracking car for sprints and hillclimbs mate! Probably the best car to have a go in the 2000cc class! That's an idea Andy. Would definitely love to give that a try one day. Whats the engine on this etc? I always get confused when people sell up to get a house etc. When I think of that, it means selling up and buying a £200 shed that costs £10 to run It's a 2 Ltr engine Matt so still got some get up & go to keep me happy. I could never drive a £200 shed, ...love my performance cars too much. The fact is that the insurance is half the cost per year that my Zed was, tyres are smaller so cheaper, it's more economical and it has more boot space which will be useful when moving our things & buying new furniture. Personally I prefer having a really old diesel for a daily, makes the weekends more fun. Cost me £300 and has gone for over a year at this point. Zed's are the only jap car that gets me going other than maybe an S2000 if I was to move away from Zed's it would probably be back to a Leon Cupra R. German and turbo's! FN2s are pretty nice and the interior is Like a spacecraft. Just not my bag. How long before its covered in mods though? Sent from my Galaxy Note 4 with Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 Personally I prefer having a really old diesel for a daily, makes the weekends more fun. Cost me £300 and has gone for over a year at this point. Zed's are the only jap car that gets me going other than maybe an S2000 if I was to move away from Zed's it would probably be back to a Leon Cupra R. German and turbo's! FN2s are pretty nice and the interior is Like a spacecraft. Just not my bag. How long before its covered in mods though? Sent from my Galaxy Note 4 with Tapatalk Well the daily driver for me is exactly that, ....driven everyday including weekends. Would be nice to have something special for the weekends but just can't afford that type of thing. If Zeds are the only Jap car that get you going then may I suggest you have a look at some of the other Jap cars available. Not knocking the Zed but there are so many great Japanese made performance cars that I'd rather before considering something like a Seat Leon even if it is a Cupra R. Not going to really mod this car at all as I've said. Will be saving up in the long term for something a bit more special . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereboy Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) I've considered one of these for a similar reason, saving for a house and want something decent to get about in that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to run.. The looks have grown on me over the years, they look great with the mugen spoiler too. Pros are the interior and modern refinements but the torsion bar rear suspension is a bit off putting, tho I'm interested it's even noticeable on public roads. I was embarrassed by a slightly modified one not long ago in the Z so real world performance can't be that bad. Edited July 27, 2015 by nowhereboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 my brother has one and i had the ep3 the ep3 was a lot sharper on turn in and in genral .. my bro tells me you learn to make these not understear plus side sounds great inside and all the extra toys defo not slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 I've considered one of these for a similar reason, saving for a house and want something decent to get about in that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to run.. The looks have grown on me over the years, they look great with the mugen spoiler too. Pros are the interior and modern refinements but the torsion bar rear suspension is a bit off putting, tho I'm interested it's even noticeable on public roads. I was embarrassed by a slightly modified one not long ago in the Z so real world performance can't be that bad. The rear suspension thing is a load of bs. Sure if I was thrashing the living cr*p out of it on track or pitting it up against an EP3 on an all out death race through the streets then I'd notice but honestly other than that it makes no difference. I've driven it hard a few times now through some twisty national speed limit areas and it's really caused me no concern, ....nor have I understeered off the road. Generally I'm driving the car slowly back & forth to work etc and seeing very good mpg. It does lack torque but it's really not a problem and if you want to go fast you just need to get the revs up nice & high before expecting it to do much. Once it's in VTEC mode though it will stay there with every gear change in the higher rpm ranges so goes pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeezeebaba Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The rear set up on the FN2 is inferior to the independant EP3 but this as you say during everyday driving isn't an issue. I have a stretch of road I use to test drive cars on that combines most types of surface. There is a dip on this road that the EP3 would glide over as the nearside wheel would drop independently of the offside but back in 07 when I took an FN2 over the same stretch the whole back end bounced sideways. What the doomsayers fail to appreciate is some of the best hot hatches ever made had torsion set ups. It's certainly no biggy but I just wanted to move with the times so didn't buy the FN2. Still cracking cars though, I have a test drive booked in the new one when it arrives which will be odd having a turbo bolted on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The rear set up on the FN2 is inferior to the independant EP3 but this as you say during everyday driving isn't an issue. I have a stretch of road I use to test drive cars on that combines most types of surface. There is a dip on this road that the EP3 would glide over as the nearside wheel would drop independently of the offside but back in 07 when I took an FN2 over the same stretch the whole back end bounced sideways. What the doomsayers fail to appreciate is some of the best hot hatches ever made had torsion set ups. It's certainly no biggy but I just wanted to move with the times so didn't buy the FN2. Still cracking cars though, I have a test drive booked in the new one when it arrives which will be odd having a turbo bolted on. When is it in showrooms I'm tempted to try it myself big Honda fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The rear set up on the FN2 is inferior to the independant EP3 but this as you say during everyday driving isn't an issue. I have a stretch of road I use to test drive cars on that combines most types of surface. There is a dip on this road that the EP3 would glide over as the nearside wheel would drop independently of the offside but back in 07 when I took an FN2 over the same stretch the whole back end bounced sideways. What the doomsayers fail to appreciate is some of the best hot hatches ever made had torsion set ups. It's certainly no biggy but I just wanted to move with the times so didn't buy the FN2. Still cracking cars though, I have a test drive booked in the new one when it arrives which will be odd having a turbo bolted on. Try superstrut suspension Was out in my mates Type S dirty derv at the weekend, handles well and shunts along the motorway at a decent pace but that noise - oh my god it sounded dreadful! Lovely interior though, nice place to sit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeezeebaba Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The rear set up on the FN2 is inferior to the independant EP3 but this as you say during everyday driving isn't an issue. I have a stretch of road I use to test drive cars on that combines most types of surface. There is a dip on this road that the EP3 would glide over as the nearside wheel would drop independently of the offside but back in 07 when I took an FN2 over the same stretch the whole back end bounced sideways. What the doomsayers fail to appreciate is some of the best hot hatches ever made had torsion set ups. It's certainly no biggy but I just wanted to move with the times so didn't buy the FN2. Still cracking cars though, I have a test drive booked in the new one when it arrives which will be odd having a turbo bolted on. When is it in showrooms I'm tempted to try it myself big Honda fan It was supposed to be this month, but I'm still waiting for the call lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 The rear set up on the FN2 is inferior to the independant EP3 but this as you say during everyday driving isn't an issue. I have a stretch of road I use to test drive cars on that combines most types of surface. There is a dip on this road that the EP3 would glide over as the nearside wheel would drop independently of the offside but back in 07 when I took an FN2 over the same stretch the whole back end bounced sideways. What the doomsayers fail to appreciate is some of the best hot hatches ever made had torsion set ups. It's certainly no biggy but I just wanted to move with the times so didn't buy the FN2. Still cracking cars though, I have a test drive booked in the new one when it arrives which will be odd having a turbo bolted on. When is it in showrooms I'm tempted to try it myself big Honda fan It was supposed to be this month, but I'm still waiting for the call lol The new Civic Type R (FK2) arrived at some dealerships Monday (Maidstone Honda below).... Was actually chatting with a guy on CTRO about it earlier. He's got his test drive booked for tomorrow so was all excited. Doesn't sound bad imo and seems fairly rapid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeezeebaba Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Oooooo I like that blue one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 ^^ Blue does look particularly good I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Look away look away lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I bet this would spank a z on a mountain road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I bet it would also get hideously frustrating when you keep spinning the power away. Nope, I'd rather go slower and have more fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I bet it would also get hideously frustrating when you keep spinning the power away. Nope, I'd rather go slower and have more fun. You think it wouldn't put it down to well then? Not saying your wrong just after your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ultimately, you can't ask wheels tyres to do two things at once. They can either turn the car, or power the car. Certainly things have gotten much better over the years with regards to FWD cars getting the power down, but they all still scrabble like crazy when you add boost. The Mini CS does it, the FST does it, the MRS does it. Some people find it endearing, I find it a pain in the ass. Once moving it'll be very rapid in a straight line, but if you ask it to do too much in the corners I suspect it'll struggle like all FWD cars do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Once moving it'll be very rapid in a straight line, but if you ask it to do too much in the corners I suspect it'll struggle like all FWD cars do. I get what you're saying but I disagree. If you look at a championship like the BTCC with a variety of tracks raced on, cars/makes/drive trains etc it is not purely dominated by rear wheel drive vehicles. In fact if you look back at the championship winners since the year 2000 till 2014, 13 of the championship winning cars were FWD's with only 2 out of the 15 being RWD's. Make of that what you will although I understand in the numbers game there are more FWD's than RWD's in the championship. Source: http://www.btcc.net/history/champions/btcc-champions/ I know the new Type R has an LSD upfront along with some pretty big 235/35/19's to help put the power down better. I haven't driven one so can't really comment on how it handles in the corners but I'm sure Honda have thought about the corners and done their best to stop it understeering straight off at the first corner you come to. From the reviews I've read so far though it does seem like it's going to be a very decent car and it has done the Nurburgring in 7 minutes 50 seconds odd so that's not too shabby I'd say as that is on par with: 2002 Lamborghini Murcielago, 2003 BMW M3 CSL, Porsche 911 Carrera S and beats many more. Source: https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 BTCC has some very odd rules to keep things competitive, the RWD cars are hugely disadvantaged with regards to that so I never expect them to be the popular choice. Besides, they're building cars to win, not to be enjoyable. As I said, suspension and chassis work has come a long way, but it still can't beat physics. I have no doubt it'll be quick, but how much time you spend fighting the car as opposed to driving the car remains to be seen. I'm as keen as anyone to drive one, but very little could persuade me to buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 BTCC has some very odd rules to keep things competitive, the RWD cars are hugely disadvantaged with regards to that so I never expect them to be the popular choice. Besides, they're building cars to win, not to be enjoyable. As I said, suspension and chassis work has come a long way, but it still can't beat physics. I have no doubt it'll be quick, but how much time you spend fighting the car as opposed to driving the car remains to be seen. I'm as keen as anyone to drive one, but very little could persuade me to buy one. Totally understand what you're getting at. I have no idea how hard the Honda driver in the Nurburgring video I posted had to fight to get the time he did but it does beat some very impressive cars as it puts the Civic around rank 70 out of 100 with many more expensive RWD/4WD cars falling behind it. 73. Mercedes SL65 AMG Black Series 7:51.00 Onboard N/A ’09 74. Jaguar XKR-S 7:51.00 Onboard N/A ’11 75. Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52.00 Onboard N/A ’03 76. Ford GT 7:52.00 Onboard N/A ’04 77. Porsche Panamera Turbos S 7:52.00 Onboard N/A ’11 78. Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 7:52.00 Onboard N/A ’08 79. Mercedes CLK DTM 7:54.00 Onboard N/A ’04 80. Porsche 911 GT3 7:54.00 Onboard N/A ’03 81. Renault Megane RS 275 Trophy-R 7:54.36 '15 82. Ferrari F430 7:55.00 Onboard N/A ’05 83. Subaru WRX STI 7:55.00 ’10 84. Caterham R500 1.8L K Series 7:55.00 Onboard N/A ’99 85. BMW M5 7:55.00 Onboard N/A ’11 86. Porsche 911 Turbo 7:56.00 Onboard N/A ’00 87. Ferrari 360 CS 7:56.00 Onboard N/A ’03 88. Ferrari California GT 7:56.00 Onboard N/A ’09 89. Porsche Panamera Sport Chrono Turbo 7:56.00 Onboard N/A ’09 90. Porsche Panamera Turbo 7:56.00 Onboard N/A ’09 91. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:56.00 Onboard N/A ’02 92. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Coupé Electric Drive 7:56.23 ’13 93. Porsche 911 GT3 7:56.33 Onboard N/A ’99 94. Honda NSX-R 7:56.73 ’02 95. Audi RS4 7:58.00 Onboard N/A ’05 96. Seat Leon Cupra ST 07:58:12 Onboard N/A ’15 97. Seat Leon Cupra 7:58.40 Onboard N/A ’14 98. Jaguar XKR-S Convertible 7:59.00 Onboard N/A ’12 99. Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59.00 Onboard N/A ’04 100. Porsche 911 Carrera S 7:59.00 Onboard N/A ’04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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