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Try asking Nissan themselves, but I very much doubt you’ll either get an answer from them nor anyone else here if I’m honest. I’d have a guess at the answer being ‘lots’.

Is that 25 of either towel or umbrella, or does it need to be 25 towels or 25 umbrellas?

I had a totally at fault accident declared when I was driving someone else's car, and it didn't affect my insurance one bit. Then I had another non-fault claim a couple of years later, no change either.

Needs spacers

Aero and a stonking lap in the right conditions with a driver that knows the car exceptionally well. It's less than 4 secs under 7mins, so not exactly well under but I see your point.

With fluids.

That'll be a dry weight, you can easy add in another 150kg for a wet weight. Also, I got the cost of a current R35 wrong apparently, so we can all stop arguing over that now I genuinely thought it was around that, with the Nismo being £150K.

Might be me with two accounts But dude, awesome name!

Nothing wrong with being correct.

Exactly my point, it’s not a 370Z Nice pic though, regardless. Just needs to be in the Other Cars section really

Either I’m being thick, or that’s not remotely a 370Z in that pic.

You know you can do it instantly online now? Putting your private reg on, that is. Or taking it off one car if it’s still on there.

That's the thing: Does the GTR need to be so big? The 911 has more space in the back for passengers, okay it loses out on the boot space, but it's not like it's not tourable. Even things like the 488 have more than enough luggage space, so really could it not be shrunk to lose the weight a bit without going gung-ho on carbon and watching the price skyrocket? Even a boggo C4S weighs 1545kg, and that's got the 4WD/4WS/2+2/6cylTT engine etc. I'm not saying it's remotely comparable to the GTR in anyway (indeed, no-one looking at either car would be considering the opposite most likely!), but it does show that you can do all that without going mental on weight. If they could do the R36 with the hybrid stuff and keep to 1700kg then that would be a success, but then how much more power does it need? Would it really be that much quicker, and would it not then be priced well and truly out of the hands of the ordinary person?

370Z is silly heavy too

Just imagine how much better a GTR could be if it weighed 1550kg, not 1750kg...

Then why have they made the Nismo versions lighter? We all know that weight is the enemy to dynamics, what the engineer guy said at the start was nonsense to cover up the fact they couldn’t make it any lighter and keep the price down. Now it’s a six-figure car, they can and should try and use more advanced materials to reduce the weight penalty.

Prob end up around 2 ton at this rate!

Hang on a minute chaps, I've just realised that we're in the first week of school holidays... Come back in a year and we'll try again then, if using a generic insurance comparison site is too taxing right now.

Dude, it’s not rocket science. It tells you what you need to do!

As Killick says, just use the GoCompareTheMoneySupermarket sites, put your details in and have a play. It’s as easy as that.

Does it feel quicker? If the answer is yes then job done. Nothing else matters. Dyno numbers are for pub bores with tiny winkys.

If only there were some kind of insurance comparison website you could put your details into, that would give you an idea of what it would cost to insure a Zed if you were 18 now...

Fair enough. Two things strike me though, one being that I can’t see why people would prefer an older M car with a non-M engine with less power etc (although I do agree the S55 sounds dreadful!), and the other is that dealers may well have other motives for telling you that the model you’re after is now more sought after and thus no deals to be had... I don’t doubt that some have changed their minds, but I think the new car is significantly more attractive in terms of what it offers than the old one for most, even if I’d be tempted to go with the older car too.

Source?

Wait until the new M2 comes out, the price of the older ones should reduce a fair bit