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back in your box maccapakka and ride your ninky nonk away from this topic.

lol yeah i forgot about that

i might pop down to thurrock if it went ahead, only an hour away ish. can then go to ikea for a meatball and chips lunch

never new that, was just wondering how the LEDs in the door handle works, sounds interesting but can't picture it. would they have been where the 3 square dots are in the handle on the outside. or on the inside to light up for your hand on the handle?

luck

martin thats the funniest joke i've heard in ages i reckon as a club with the zed we've paid enough in road tax in a year to keep the first 5 junctions of the m6 in good nick.

really, you like the golf interior, my wife has one, i don't like it. its well put togehter, but not my taste.

those carbon pipes were also half to 2 thirds thinner as well. i don't disagree that it needs to be tested, but i do feel that some people are out to troll or scaremonger on parts they have no intention of purchasing. before i get flamed i'm not saying everyone who has posted has done this and to be honest the majority of those that started off that way have at least started to be constructive instead of destructive with their comments. and as for tried and tested well branded parts, on my last car i had an intake pipe from apexi that rusted on the inside. to the point that i was worried it would suck in rust to the engine. i had to take it out and get it coated to protect it before refitting. alot of you seem to have this god like status of tuning company parts that they know all and see all and if they haven't doen it then it can't be possible. but this isn't always te case and sometimes they choose materials due to profit and not quality, CF isn't easy to mass produce and most is done on a small scale in comparison to the ability to weld metal. what about that header zman alex had that melted through and blew hot exhaust gases straight into the engine bay. yes big name brands to good stuff but they aren't the be all and end all and by no means should we be bowing down and worship the ground they walk on. sorry bout the rant but some people seem so narrow visioned.

i can be if you want me too i'll be just like a real woman, i'll text you all the time, i'll ring at inappropriate times, i'll slag your mates off, tell you that you can't go to the pub, make you run pointless errands for me, and i'll never put out either

i'm not worried about cracking i don't think its possible with this plenum i just want to know it seals ok onto the lower plenum.

just a fat golf. they were so cheap they didn't even put in a new interior but just reused the one from the golf. then concpt version was so much better.

as long as scott is happy with the testing he does, i.e. running it on his car, and anything else thats deemed as sensible then i hope to be the next to have one on. i signed up because i liked the idea of the product, and i've been happy with everything i've seen so far. scotts done a sterling job and the item looks good. well done scott

they put it there to stop all the middle lane hoggers

its what makes me laugh when i watch DIY SOS, you get quite a few who start things with no technical knowledge soon get in over their heads and then they are stuffed. and it gets worse and worse. some poeple with power tools are just dangourous. one of my dads mates has been banned ny his wife from using a chainsaw. she has it padlocked in the garage so he can't use it. he was sent out to trim a dead tree, she got back home to find he'd cut down 8 trees because he found it such great fun had masacered their garden

+1 to what cookie said, have been speaking to my colleage at work who is a CF specialist, its what he trained in and worked in before he went into teaching. we've been discussing it at work and i'll see what we can come up with at our end.

5 mm to 6 mm thick CF i can't see that splitting, can't do the maths right now but the vacuum pressure you'd need to exert enough pressure to force a crack in that would need to be very high. anyone know what the vac pressure in the plenum is? easies test to find maximum vac pressure it would take is mount it on a sealed platform fit it to a compressor and see what the maximium psi is for it to go. but at that thickness i don't think a compressor would apply enough pressure to it, which would definatly be more than what the car can apply. as for the internal surface your right about the golf ball science, but CF has a similair rough surface to it internally as cast ally has. so unless it has had an internal CF layer fitted facing into the engine then it will still be rough. as for liability issues why mot speak to someone like japspeed, don't they manufacture there own items like manifolds, and they must have some kind of cover? what do they do/use.

+1 and after reading the notes above, i would be unsure if i would buy an item if it was show use only. its either fit for purpose or its not. I know full well that this product should be, and i doubt we will see an issue. but for me its either fit or it isn't Not even if the material is scientifically more than fit for the job, well on paper at least? the only issue i could see is if the item doesn't seal properly to the lower plenum. if for soem god unkown reason the plenum splits the worst i can see is a split, and not it braking into a thousand peieces and being sucked through the engine. personally i think its fit for purpose (the material that is) personally i find the show use only thing a bit of a get out clause. (which i know its meant to be). i just think if the product works, then stand by it.

+1 and after reading the notes above, i would be unsure if i would buy an item if it was show use only. its either fit for purpose or its not. I know full well that this product should be, and i doubt we will see an issue. but for me its either fit or it isn't

i am quite grumpy, my wife refers to me as a gruffalo, like the monsters in the kids book

tyres are manufactured to british or european standards as are most products and carry either a BS symbol or a kite mark etc. these just state that the manufacturer maintains a certain standard through production and certifies that it meets the regulations for that item. the manufacturer would be the ones responsible for that not the distributor. it might be worth scott looking into becomeing a (i think ) ltd company does this not give him public liability then. and then as a LTD company he is able to get public liability insurance. therefore in the case of a claim his liability insurance would foot the bill not scott directly. i would think this is something his manufacturer would already have, and i thought scott said that the part came with something like a 6 month/12 month gaurentee. (i might be wrong and have my wires crossed) as for me back a product that hasn't been made then yes and no your right, it wasn't so much the product but the material, i have no problem someone pointing something out or using fact to base an argument on, but making comments on hearsay instead of fact does niggle me sometimes. i was only putting across the known facts of the material based on fact. i felt the OP was getting a rough deal and tried to put across a balanced argument. i agree this needs to be done properly but the original approach to this point wasn't the right one. the facts and comments now being put forward are constructive and useful and beneficial to both the distributor and the buyer, when that point comes. when it comes to legal things my knowledge is very limited so will leave to those in the know.

4x4 = bowler wildcat/bobcat thing classic = jaguar d type supercar = koenigsegg CCXR maybe due suttle changes after i get back from the topgear show on saturday.

i know scott, and i feel sorry we have to keep going round in circles, matin if you can show me an example of a carbon plenum from another manufacturer that has melteded then i might feel that your dealing in solid facts, but at the moment your making unsubstantiated sweeping statements that is attempting to damage the reputation of a product that hasn't even been used yet.

perfectly agree, and your right, but this shouldn't be a problem as these have already been researched into by scott and the manufacturer, and they already make them for BMW's. the engine bay does get warm. but the interior surface of the plenum is also being constantly cooled with incoming air. plenum temperatures are only higher with a ally plenum as the metal is a heat conductor. the spacer acts as a thermal insulator to where the plenum joins the lower plenum where heat is also conducted. if heat was a real issue at the area we are dealing with then all the internal plastics and wire insulation would have melted ages ago. if made properly (which i believe it is being) then there should be no failure issues. there might be a few fine tunes but thats the same with making any new product. and that will be done on scotts car first as the tester i would presume before being rolled out to the forum.

i think you need a licence to go to diy shops. you need to pass some qulaifications in practical tasks before they allow you in the door. " sorry sir you'll have to leave; we've been informed that you're just going to screw it up" please come back when you have your cutting certificate"

there are a couple, do a google search or go to envy as they are on there.