larsdowg Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Hi there, I purchased some Hel Hoses and it looks like I have been sent the wrong ones? Can someone send me a picture of the hoses for a 2004 GT with Brembos. I am also a bit confused as there are only 4 hoses..........after taking the front wheel off I can see: Hardlines and Flexi lines...........which lines do the Hel hoses replace? Has anyone done a guide to fitting after market brake hoses as I can't seem to find it, maybe using the wrong keywords Found some great ones for changing discs and pads! Thanks Many thanks in advance Lars Quote
jumping350 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) couldnt see a guide but may get an idea from the stopech brake install guide, step 7 onwards http://stoptech.com/.../98-646-1450-02 Edited March 28, 2015 by jumping350 1 Quote
Ewen@Clark Motorsport Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 The HEL kit only comes with 4 lines thats why its cheaper than the HoseTechnik or Goodrich kit which replicate the OEM hoses. 1 Quote
larsdowg Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Can someone supply me with a picture of the HEL kit please? As I am only trusting Google searches, not someone who has actually held a set.... Ewan could you help with this please? Thanks both for your answers. So is it best to change all the hoses? If so which kit is a more complete replacement? Could you give me some links and prices for the all kits please Ewan? Assume you supply these? Thanks Lars Quote
Adrian@TORQEN Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) These are the Goodridge Phantom G-Stop Brake Lines Edited March 28, 2015 by octet@TORQEN Quote
Ewen@Clark Motorsport Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I do not supply HEL kits due to a near disaster with a set on an R35 GTR, problems with any parts can occur but the manufacturers response was shocking. The car now runs a Goodridge kit without any problems. the Hosetechnik kit we supply is a full replacement kit with stainless steel distribution blocks. It can be seen here: http://www.350z-uk.com/topic/76884-350z-stainless-steel-braided-brake-lines-149/page__hl__%2Bhose+%2Btechnik Quote
ross@japex Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I will never fit Hel lines again due to past fitment issues and poor customer service. Agree with Ewan, Hosetechnik or Goodridge. Never go for the cheaper option with brakes. You kinda need them. 1 Quote
larsdowg Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 These are the Goodridge Phantom G-Stop Brake Lines How much will these set me back a set for all 4 corners Ewan..............so I can consider/get saving Quote
KyleR Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Hel lines are fine, many many on the forum have them trouble free. You should have recieved 2 short and 2 long lines and a couple of P clips. You will be replacing the line from the caliper to the hard brass lines at the top of the wheel arch. Everything else can go in the bin. 3 Quote
-Bradders- Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 As above ive never had any issues with fitment where are you located? give me a pm and ill talk you through it! 1 Quote
Jp606 Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Lots of people with HEL lines fitted and no problems on here. If you fit them properly then there is nothing to worry about. Customer service with HEL was brilliant for me, I had a line rub on my tyre (entirely my fault, I didn't route it properly and it moved) and emailed them asking if I could buy a single line rather than a full kit, and they sent me out a full set straight away, completely free of change All kits available replace the same part (the flexy part after the hard lines) some just route differently. The HEL is 4 lines as you've noted, very easy to fit just remember to bleed them in the proper order (and don't forget there is two bleed nipples per calliper) and use a good brake fluid. 1 Quote
Sargara Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I had a HEL line fail on my last car, I was breaking to slow down from a NSL to a 30mph village and it failed after circa 300 miles of being fitted. The hose popped off the nozel which was still fastened to the calliper and emptied all my new Motul RBF600 inside the wheel. HEL just asked to see a photo then sent me a replacement set with a cap.... This was summer last year. Quote
newkid Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I had hel lines on my type r fn2. They didn't fit correctly but after some engineering prowess they were on. Never had an issue other than fitment. Quote
jimboy2 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Don't like seeing posts like this. I have just ordered some HEL lines! Have I signed up for death?? Quote
ZMANALEX Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I would not go that far, however make sure that you have a will in place for your beneficiaries. 1 Quote
jimboy2 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Are they really that bad? If they are I will send them back and get something else. I stupidly assumed they were the go to braided lines Quote
ZMANALEX Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Let's just say they are not the best and they are cheap for a reason. Goodridge or Hose Technic is the way to go. 1 Quote
Adrian@TORQEN Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Proper GoodRidge G-Stop are about £179, can get 5-10 sets in stock if you guys are interested Quote
Ewen@Clark Motorsport Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Hose Technik 6 line kits on the shelf for £149 http://www.350z-uk.com/topic/76884-350z-stainless-steel-braided-brake-lines-149/page__hl__%2Bhose+%2Btechnik We have these on several customers race cars with zero issues Quote
Adrian@TORQEN Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 They look way better than the cheap HEL lines, similar design to the GoodRidge G-Stop. Quote
Ewen@Clark Motorsport Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Yes same design Adrian the distribution blocks are stainless, not had any issues and they are a great company to deal with. Goodridge would always be a good choice in my book as well their kits have been proven over the years. I know when it comes down to brakes I would never want to compromise and after the failure we had with an R35 I would never supply HEL again with their response to the issue. 1 Quote
larsdowg Posted June 16, 2015 Author Posted June 16, 2015 Hi all, I have an issue on the front drivers side hard line. The thread is rusted at the top and the new pipe will not screw up far enough. I can't be the only person who has had this issue................. can this be rethread using a die or does anyone know the nut size/thread to run a nut up and down the rusty part. Passenger side front and rear has gone on no issues...................but left with a leaking front drivers side. HELP HELP HELP Many thanks in advance Lars Quote
larsdowg Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 Just to comment on my last Hi all, I have an issue on the front drivers side hard line. The thread is rusted at the top and the new pipe will not screw up far enough. I can't be the only person who has had this issue................. can this be rethread using a die or does anyone know the nut size/thread to run a nut up and down the rusty part. Passenger side front and rear has gone on no issues...................but left with a leaking front drivers side. HELP HELP HELP Many thanks in advance Lars Ended up getting a pipe nut, opened the end up and ran it up and down the thread with WD-40 until the rust was removed. This worked out and all new pipes fitted and stopping power is a lot better than OEM 'in my humble opinion' Thanks everyone for your help Lars Quote
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