Mr P Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Like the man said: "Get a Mac and don't open anything you don't recognise." Also, switch on your firewall and regularly download your security updates. I regularly scan mine with MacKeeper, which I mainly use for the other stuff it can do. Never had an issue in eight years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Like the man said: "Get a Mac and don't open anything you don't recognise." Also, switch on your firewall and regularly download your security updates. I regularly scan mine with MacKeeper, which I mainly use for the other stuff it can do. Never had an issue in eight years. If i has a Mac I would be able to run any of my software!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Like the man said: "Get a Mac and don't open anything you don't recognise." Also, switch on your firewall and regularly download your security updates. I regularly scan mine with MacKeeper, which I mainly use for the other stuff it can do. Never had an issue in eight years. If i has a Mac I would be able to run any of my software!! Sounds like you need a MAC . . or your drunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Like the man said: "Get a Mac and don't open anything you don't recognise." Also, switch on your firewall and regularly download your security updates. I regularly scan mine with MacKeeper, which I mainly use for the other stuff it can do. Never had an issue in eight years. If i has a Mac I would be able to run any of my software!! Sounds like you need a MAC . . or your drunk Cant sleep! Seriously though for me owning a Mac would be like have a virus riddled machine. How's the mapple syrup this time of year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Don't knock it till you've tried it And the Maple Syrup is plentiful and exquisite on pancakes .... As per usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 I have tried it and I've used a Mac I wanted to meet you at Ace Doogy but I never got the chance, feel like I missed the opportunity of a life time there. Never mind, piece out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I have tried it and I've used a Mac I wanted to meet you at Ace Doogy but I never got the chance, feel like I missed the opportunity of a life time there. Never mind, piece out. Well you should have come and said hello . . . I might not get to a meet again . . . ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobears Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 SuperStu, my iPad is um, normal. No idea what jail broken means, sorry. The e mail wasn't from anybody, it had no header and no content. It just appeared briefly on screen and then vanished! I know that sounds bonkers but I spoke to someone on another forum last night and they had exactly the same thing happen. I'm still confused... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 SuperStu, my iPad is um, normal. No idea what jail broken means, sorry. The e mail wasn't from anybody, it had no header and no content. It just appeared briefly on screen and then vanished! I know that sounds bonkers but I spoke to someone on another forum last night and they had exactly the same thing happen. I'm still confused... Don't worry, just sounds like a common or garden bug in mail. If the email has disappeared and your iPad is still functioning fine and not exploded, I wouldn't worry about it for a second. There appears to have been a common issue like you descrbied on iOS4, but you can't still be on 4. Put it from your mind, it'll be some confused meta data or getting some jobs done in the wrong order or it just having a 'moment'. If it makes you feel any better, switch it off and back on again Nothing to worry about, bugs happen, then they go away. I'll have a quick google just in case though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
370Ad Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I have used AVAST free anti virus software for the last year or so on my phone and pc and it works just as well as Norton which I used to pay £40 a year for. And the facts around this are.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Well, if he doesn't have a virus then it's as good for less money. I use AVAST too, although common sense is far more useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Ok, so should us Mac users be worried/upgrade security, if so, what with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Do you click on unwanted attachments and links? If so, then you need an AV. Anything will do, really. There is no AV that captures EVERYTHING, they all claim to be better than each other at something. If not, then you don't. No harm in having one for those times you get on the computer drunk as a skunk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
370Ad Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I do believe typical AV will die out in the near future. Application/service vulnerabilities are what the real bad guys exploit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Ok, so should us Mac users be worried/upgrade security, if so, what with? If you use Time Machine and take regular backups like the 15 minute incremental you should be fine. ClamXav is a free Mac AV, I use it for on demand scans of certain items from time to time. The only proper "always on, proactive" AV I run on my mac is on the windows virtual machine. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/clamxav/id430207028?mt=12 http://m.download.cnet.com/ClamXav/3000-2239_4-10668194.html Being aware of social engineering, browsing on "specialist" websites, dodgy attachments and handling unsolicited Mail from unknown people is the best AV you can have at home. Enterprise requires much more effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 All user PC's at my work have Sophos and nothing has ever come through with the exception of someone not having updates and crypto locker doings it's stuff on his PC. Pulled the network cable before it got too far and luckily it actually errored locking shared drives! As said best defense is not going to sites via dodgy email links and staying off dodgy websites with links. Done several hacking courses and it's very easy, more so than you think. For example I can send you a link to Facebook and soon as you do I will get access to your account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodder Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 If people didn't click things they shouldn't, like uninvited links and attachments, you'd never need virus protection really. Firewall is a must-have, but sensible people don't really need AV. /controversial I agree mostly however not all viruses come in via email. Lots of port scanning and other tricks being used. A good AV product (I use avast too), common sense and keeping software up to date are crucial. The place I work at has the most spam and therefore potential malware messages after the US government on the planet. I used to work in the messaging team and used to sit there watching a counter go up as all the crap came in. I remember my boss telling me to kill all the external connections when the iloveyou virus was going around. Folks can be so stupid at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockaaarck Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I've had to approve a series security and AV based changes across our entire IT estate yesterday and today. I expect the next couple of weeks to be busy in this respect and probably quite stressful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 If people didn't click things they shouldn't, like uninvited links and attachments, you'd never need virus protection really. Firewall is a must-have, but sensible people don't really need AV. /controversial I agree mostly however not all viruses come in via email. Lots of port scanning and other tricks being used. A good AV product (I use avast too), common sense and keeping software up to date are crucial. The place I work at has the most spam and therefore potential malware messages after the US government on the planet. I used to work in the messaging team and used to sit there watching a counter go up as all the crap came in. I remember my boss telling me to kill all the external connections when the iloveyou virus was going around. Folks can be so stupid at times So could anyone/virus get through from port scanning or will most AV software punch it in the balls big style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodder Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) Its a way of looking for vulnerabilities. Having software up to date (including AV and firewall) is a must. However if there are vulnerabilities with software that have yet to be discovered your AV/firewall software will probably not be looking for it. To be fair these typically are targeted attacks against large organisations but is still valid for the average home user. I'm no expert on the security side (I do talk to some regularly though) but I do know keeping software up to date and using your common sense are the key ways to avoid any issues. Edit: I use windows firewall, seems to do a reasonable job for me. Edited June 7, 2014 by Fodder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Any Mac users getting concerned about malware, there is a group test in the Summer 2014 Macworld magazine, looking at 3 free and 3 paid offerings. I can't find a link, they obviously want to keep selling magazines so may not have put it on their site, but I recommend the mag for Mac users who want to pick up bits and pieces, so go and buy one In order of goodness in their opinion if you want to cut directly to the chase (ratings out of 5): PAID Intego Mac Internet Security X8 - £40 per year - 5 stars (built specifically for Mac, not a Windowz port) ESET Cyber Security - £30 per year - 4 stars Kaspersky Internet Security for Mac - £40 per year - 2 stars FREE Avira Free Antivirus for Mac - 4 stars ClamXav 2 - 3 stars Avast! Free Antivirus for Mac - 3 stars I can't go into the depth of how much resource the hog and % detection of known malware etc, but the conclusion to the piece starts of with this, "Do you need to run a full-time virus scanner on your Mac? The answer for most people todays is still probably no, although there are organisations for whom the added level of security is worthwhile..." FWIW, I keep ClamXav for on demand scans of email attachments, internet downloads and a regular full scan. I picked this as it is super lightweight (only 20MB compared to between 150MB and 1.5GB on the 5 others mentioned above) and scores reasonably well on detection and is FREE! If I was gonna pay, based on this group test it'd be Intego - but I must stress I've not used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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