nowhereboy Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I can't see the pics as I'm at work. Is it the GTST? I quite fancy one of these, curious how it picks up speed compared to the Z..... Is it much faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 It is a GTS-T, with regards to pace, I think they are about on par. My one has a few aftermarket bits and has been on the dyno running 278bhp, it does feel fast. It is a different speed sensation though, the Zed almost lazily makes is way where-as this the R33 relies on the sudden boost pick up of the turbo. The advantages of a turbo though are clear with regards to tuning, you can safely push the standard internals up to 330bhp on the standard turbo and up to 400bhp with an uprated turbo in much cheaper terms compared to an NA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Stock internals will do 450+ if mapped correctly , mine was running c475hp on totally stock engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 My zed was standard performance wise, as is my gtst. The zed was obviously quicker off the mark. I used to think the zed pulled forever but after getting into the zed after driving the skyline for a few months I did feel the zed ran out of puff where the skyline would just keep on going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 You still running the side mount intercooler? Getting a larger front mount in makes the world of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Larger front mount on the stock turbo will make it more laggy , the r34 side mount is a good upgrade since they run .8 bar from the factory so it's been designed for the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 I drove both, with the R34 side and the larger front mount - admittedly there were minor differences between the two cars i.e. bov's but the front mount was definitely quicker and not creating extra lag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It has to, the more volume the turbo has to pressurise the longer the boost takes to get to the engine its simple physics , its might not be noticeable when driving but its there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 As you said, it isn't really noticeable - and that marginal lag is a fair trade off to get all the nice extra power especially once the EBC is fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick-r1 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It has to, the more volume the turbo has to pressurise the longer the boost takes to get to the engine its simple physics , its might not be noticeable when driving but its there with the size of the stock turbo on a gtst it spools quick anyway, its not like your waiting on 2 bar of boost to build. it maxes at 1.15 otherwise it will pop so a large front mount isnt going to be a issue, is anything it just saves having to change a second time when upgrading the turbo. at which point youd have enough to be changing to make the best use of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Stock turbo maxes at .8 bar above that the fibre wheels have a tendency to shatter? The shock unit with rebuilt steel garret internals will go up to 1.6 bar but starts to tail off performance wise about 1.45 I get your logic about fitting a Fmic for future mods but below about 320hp the stock r34 one will give the best all round performance People fit front mounts for looks most of the time , any performance benefits they give are at the expense of hp and torque lower down the rpm range where most people spend most of their time , #formoverfunction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick-r1 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 stock tubby doesnt max at 0.8 its 1.15 like i said, 0.8 is what it runs with the 2 stage boost removed. yes the ceramic exhaust wheel shatters at 1.2 bar due to heat, the rest about the rebuild and when it runs out are spot on though, but at 1.4 bar with supporting mods youd be near the max of the bottom end anyway, poncams would keep the low to mid that is usually lost, or being a 33 gtst a 34 gtr exhaust cam and cas with a little fettling would be a nice upgrade too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 stock tubby doesnt max at 0.8 its 1.15 like i said, 0.8 is what it runs with the 2 stage boost removed. yes the ceramic exhaust wheel shatters at 1.2 bar due to heat, the rest about the rebuild and when it runs out are spot on though, but at 1.4 bar with supporting mods youd be near the max of the bottom end anyway, poncams would keep the low to mid that is usually lost, or being a 33 gtst a 34 gtr exhaust cam and cas with a little fettling would be a nice upgrade too Sorry mate but that's tosh . R33 runs .6 bar if you remove the two stage it runs .6 all the time rather than the .4 bar initially it doesn't increase the boost, the wheels break much below 1.2 the series one r33 only has ceramic exhaust wheels the series two and r34 run ceramic exhaust and fibre intake wheels and are more fragile .8-.85 is the safe limit for both but they can cope with spikes up to 1bar. It's the speed that kills them not heat. Rods and crank in the rb25 can run 500hp it's the pistons that are the weak point , I ran 1.45 plus 50hp of gas in mine around 475hp, all stock, car ran mid twelves and was tracked as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Gave it a first clean up, so a detox shampoo, polish, glaze, wax and a new sticker to cover up the stains the exhaust were causing on the bodywork... Should be good for a quick clean prior to Sunday morning Sticker! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlukey Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Liking that sticker, very clever idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick-r1 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 stock tubby doesnt max at 0.8 its 1.15 like i said, 0.8 is what it runs with the 2 stage boost removed. yes the ceramic exhaust wheel shatters at 1.2 bar due to heat, the rest about the rebuild and when it runs out are spot on though, but at 1.4 bar with supporting mods youd be near the max of the bottom end anyway, poncams would keep the low to mid that is usually lost, or being a 33 gtst a 34 gtr exhaust cam and cas with a little fettling would be a nice upgrade too Sorry mate but that's tosh . R33 runs .6 bar if you remove the two stage it runs .6 all the time rather than the .4 bar initially it doesn't increase the boost, the wheels break much below 1.2 the series one r33 only has ceramic exhaust wheels the series two and r34 run ceramic exhaust and fibre intake wheels and are more fragile .8-.85 is the safe limit for both but they can cope with spikes up to 1bar. It's the speed that kills them not heat. Rods and crank in the rb25 can run 500hp it's the pistons that are the weak point , I ran 1.45 plus 50hp of gas in mine around 475hp, all stock, car ran mid twelves and was tracked as well. hahahaha its 0.5 stage 1 then 0.7 stage 2 boost. then remove the solinoid and it will go to 0.75/0.8 depending on intake temps etc.. yeah yeah we can go back and forth my car this your car that, we can all go read wiki etc too, but from being around skylines the past 10 years and owning and modding them from complete stock i think its safe to say its one car i know inside out. BTW mid 12's at 475 isnt something id be bragging about, sure i done 13.2 with 280bhp then at 350bhp i managed 12.4 never ran it after that on timing gear, but was tracked at 431 on the stock rb25 before i swapped it out and build a 500bhp rb26 in it.... but i suppose thats tosh too lol anyways OP im liking the sticker over the pipe, car is clean fair play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Will probably get a proper bracket above the exhaust but a £1.99 ebay sticker will do for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 What does that note in your window say CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 I need a residents parking permit where I live, I just wrote the reference number of the online application on it to ward off any unfriendly parkies. In case you were wondering, its not for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Scrubs up well mate, stickers looking good What wheels you thinking of? Or is that too far ahead lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 The eBay wheels are growing on me haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Well been having a fettle this week, few bits and bobs added. Shiny stuff in the engine bay, brake fluid cover, various shiny caps, also got a universal aluminium cover for the air filter which worked surprisingly well! Also bought a JVC KD-R741 head unit and installed it, relatively cheap at £79 in the Halfords sale but for what I wanted (USB player and bluetooth) does the job admirably. Looking next for a full replacement bolt and washer set for the engine bay - then the big one, what to do with the rocker covers and spark cover on the engine. It tends to dominate the engine bay so decision is crucial! Could polish the rocker/cam covers and go for a red plug cover...decisions decisions Edited March 23, 2014 by coldel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Looking good already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Very tidy looking Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 Cheers guys, she is off to TGM first thing tomorrow morning for the skirt repair So will be without until Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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