WINKJ Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I was wondering whether to look into the possible move to a 370z nismo. I have been trying to hold out for a GTR but they're out of my reach at the moment, £1k for car tax alone... However I have seen the 370z nismo in the flesh and think it looks great, however haven't driven it as of yet. Currently have an 08 HR with 27k on the clock so its a pretty tight car still. My question is, is the juice worth the squeeze. I own the 350 outright and if I moved to a 370 nismo I would use the 350 as deposit and finance the rest. Is it a big step up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xKC6S2SAbQo take a test drive, it's the only way, i moved from a 350 to a 911 to the 370, the 370 is a much nicer place to be than the 350, the sat nav/hu is awesome imo, the interior finish is much nicer Edited January 20, 2014 by GIXXERUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Isn't it £840 for the Nismo or any 370 registered after April 2010? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Isn't it £840 for the Nismo or any 370 registered after April 2010? road tax ? £490 iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 That's what I thought but I just checked because of this thread and it produces 248g/km which is the second highest band at £840 if registered after 1st April 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yep, tax is mental on new cars, but that £840 rate is just for the first year of registration. after that it'll be £475. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I haven't looked but is that the 1st year tax only and then drops to the £490 ? 'cos thats what mine was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINKJ Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yep, tax is mental on new cars, but that £840 rate is just for the first year of registration. after that it'll be £475. interesting! didn't know this - maybe thats why I saw £1100 on a GTR tax disk because it was in the first year of its life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I haven't looked but is that the 1st year tax only and then drops to the £490 ? 'cos thats what mine was £490 is the normal rate for HR 350s and 370s. They must have dropped the emissions a bit for the 370 Nismo if its in the second highest band. https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Ah I didn't realise we were talking new, yes there's a premium on the first year to encourage buyers lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hensh65 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Speak to Gman, he went from a 370 to a 370 nismo. I have seen it in the flesh and I wouldn't mind trading my car along with my left nut for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I probably am going to go against the grain. I would say there is a massive step up from the 350 to the 370z........ but I just dont get the price of the nismo. You can pick up a gorgeous 370z for 17.5 to 18k for a mint one........... big price jump to a nismo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Someone at work summed this up today actually, he said that although my last 370 was a great looking car, the Nismo stands out significantly. Jay is right, for 17-18k, you could pick up a near mint 370, but then again, it's not a Nismo. Test drive both, there is a noticeable difference, looks aside. It's a lot of dosh, but then your dead a long time. Free servicing on them for three years as well. A GTR costs @ 2k for a P3. A big step up from a 350, looks, interior, bit more oomph, quality and gadgets, miss the heated seats though I'm lucky, I didn't need finance, my last 370 had 2 years interest free with final payment, which worked well, check Nissans deals, or look at a pre reg/demo model for a better price, or wait a couple of years, or if I get fed up, sooner and buy mine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINKJ Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Someone at work summed this up today actually, he said that although my last 370 was a great looking car, the Nismo stands out significantly. Jay is right, for 17-18k, you could pick up a near mint 370, but then again, it's not a Nismo. Test drive both, there is a noticeable difference, looks aside. It's a lot of dosh, but then your dead a long time. Free servicing on them for three years as well. A GTR costs @ 2k for a P3. A big step up from a 350, looks, interior, bit more oomph, quality and gadgets, miss the heated seats though I'm lucky, I didn't need finance, my last 370 had 2 years interest free with final payment, which worked well, check Nissans deals, or look at a pre reg/demo model for a better price, or wait a couple of years, or if I get fed up, sooner and buy mine haha thanks G man, do you think though that the nismo will depreciate quicker as it is a higher price? or will the fact they are 'rarer' keep the prices in line with normal depreciation? would you definitely recommend a new/pre reg rather than second hand? or do you recommend the new because of the deals. IMO I agree with your point about it being a nismo, no matter how much you spend on a z, even if it is for retrofit Nismo parts.. it will never be a nismo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hard to say on depreciation, a lot of factors come into play here, but I would suspect it would hold out a bit more. On the question of new v second hand, that's down to budget these cars are bullet proof mechanically, and there are a lot of good examples out there. But, put a Nismo side by side with a stock 370 and that'll make up your mind, IMO of course. A lot of money, but my last 370 had 3k plus thrown at it, made a nice noise, was a bit quicker than stock and was a fantastic car but the Nismo trumped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) As Jay said, 370z from 350z anytime, but Nismo 370z is the ugliest Z ever produced by Nissan with a price difference from the standard version unjustifiable. You basically pay a lot more for some red and silver badge, crappy exhaust, a stabiliser bar and stiffer springs, all under an extremely ugly body kit that is ruining the beautiful look of the 370z. £6000 extra for that?! You can get a supercharger fitted for that kind of money, we're talking about 500rwhp and 400lb/ft torque. The only things worth on the Nismo version are the wheels, a lot nicer than the standard ones on the sport version. Performance wise, it's a joke, 16 little hungry ponies extra... I'd get a beautiful 370z GT and start playing with it, better exhaust and suspension, UpRev will give you the extra power difference and so on. Edited January 21, 2014 by octet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 How much you looking to spend mate? My 370 is still up for sale. 24k on the clock, full stainless exhaust system, full Nissan service. Could also do you a deal with the volks on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Apart from Count FUDula's unhelpful post, Jay has a lovely car for sale, could do worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 My two pence worth: I've had two previous 370Zs. The Nismo is significantly sharper and nippier and a very good looking car - real head turner. I'd much rather have one than a standard Z pimped up to extreme levels. Of course you'll get the likes of you know who above finding reasons to insult them but my suggestion is go and drive one. Never driven a 350 myself but compared to my previous Zs the fairly minor bhp hike is misleading. The Nismo feels a lot more pokey to me than either of my previous 370s. Handling is also significantly sharper. As for the exhaust being "crappy" - I think not. I won't be changing the Nismo exhaust whereas I couldn't wait to get the stock exhaust removed from the previous car. It's not the loudest exhaust but it's suitably sporty and looks great. You might want to look for an ex demonstrator - I've seen a few on Autotrader with reasonable discounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You're a bad man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Just made me laugh, loud. What do you want me to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yawn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Time to go to bed? Quite early I'd say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I am in bed. Seriously. Get past 40 and bedtime gets earlier and earlier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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