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Hi

I'm looking at 2004 350z's.

I've discovered that Nissan suggest no one under 12 yrs old can ride in the car !

I know you can't turn the air bag off but do owners still take kids in their cars ?

 

I have a 4 yr old in a car seat.

 

Am I being too cautious ?

 

Thanks

 

 

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I thought you could turn off the air bag? Your definitely not being too cautious. My partner has a 4 year old she's never been in my car yet but I will be taking all the precautions like I would if she was my own daughter.

 

My car is 2004 and I thought me and my partner worked out you could turn the air bag light off but I could be wrong.

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You can turn it off but there are no isofix anchors.

 

4 year old? Just belt them in and let em live a little. Fook me I was sat on a cushion in my dads XR3i and that was 83% rust!

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I thought the only way to turn it off was to pull a fuse?

 

I think you may be right.

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IIRC there was a tech note from Nissan where you could get a disable key switch installed, fairly sure it's on here somewhere. Don't think anyone was successful getting it done though.

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Each to there own Ricey but for me safety first I'd never forgive myself if something awful happened that I could have easily prevented. I'm probably being a bit of a hypocrite considering the child gets to ride my horses which is probably a lot more dangerous but again I never leave her side just in case I could prevent something from happening, don't get me wrong you can't wrap them up in cotton wool I guess I'm just even more paranoid as she's my partners daughter

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Each to there own Ricey but for me safety first I'd never forgive myself if something awful happened that I could have easily prevented. I'm probably being a bit of a hypocrite considering the child gets to ride my horses which is probably a lot more dangerous but again I never leave her side just in case I could prevent something from happening, don't get me wrong you can't wrap them up in cotton wool I guess I'm just even more paranoid as she's my partners daughter

 

Hey totally.....I don't have any kids at the end of the day so I'm probably more blasé about it.

 

I just think we worry far too much these days......I mean put it in context:

 

- 4 year old in the car your scared to death and strapping them into all sorts of contraptions.

- 7 year old in the car no ones bothered.

- 17 year old in the car you make them drive you home when your pi**ed.

 

I'm not convinced a car seat isn't doing much that a child seat is.

 

How old is 4 years old these days anyway? Are they smoking by that age yet? :lol:

 

 

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Each to there own Ricey but for me safety first I'd never forgive myself if something awful happened that I could have easily prevented. I'm probably being a bit of a hypocrite considering the child gets to ride my horses which is probably a lot more dangerous but again I never leave her side just in case I could prevent something from happening, don't get me wrong you can't wrap them up in cotton wool I guess I'm just even more paranoid as she's my partners daughter

 

Hey totally.....I don't have any kids at the end of the day so I'm probably more blasé about it.

 

I just think we worry far too much these days......I mean put it in context:

 

- 4 year old in the car your scared to death and strapping them into all sorts of contraptions.

- 7 year old in the car no ones bothered.

- 17 year old in the car you make them drive you home when your pi**ed.

 

I'm not convinced a car seat isn't doing much that a child seat is.

 

How old is 4 years old these days anyway? Are they smoking by that age yet? :lol:

 

And when you put it like that, you are so right I completely agree!

 

I'd say it would be a big eye opener if we knew what 4 year olds/ young kids where getting up too these days or more importantently let bloody away with.

 

My work colleague had an 8 year old square up to her the other month and say "what you looking at" my god I was ready to scream at him to be honest I was ready to do more than that and the mother couldn't give a toss!!! Ridiculous lol

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I have a six year old which i have in a car seat. I was very worried when i found out the Air bag couldn't be turned off, especially after changing from a 4 door Saab.

 

I only have my son every other weekend, otherwise i wouldn't of bought it, or it would have been a second car.

 

The Zed seats don't like child seats very much, but i believe there are some out there which will fit better if there narrower

 

I'm using a full child seat, not a booster so it has full head support.

 

The seat is as far back as possible, as some chunky car seats will sit your child further towards the front.

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I thought the only way to turn it off was to pull a fuse?

 

I think you may be right.

 

You are absolutely right, the only way to disable the airbags is by pulling the fuse. In theory you can request that Nissan install a switch to allow airbag activation and deactivation, but in reality I have yet to find a dealership who will ACTUALLY do this. And yes, I've called them all... :)

 

I have a 2.5yr old daughter who travels in the front seat of my car daily. I have read more about the pro's and con's of airbags vs. young children than I care to recall on here, but in summary, nobody has been able to prove (to me) that airbags are any more dangerous to a child in a forward facing car seat than not having any airbags would be.

 

Note: the law regarding rear facing car seats in a car with airbags is clear... It is illegal because it is PROVEN to be fatal.

 

This website may be useful: http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/law/index.htm#kids311

 

If you decide to carry a passenger under 12yrs old, you should take all reasonable precautions, such as:

1. buy a good quality car seat which fits your car correctly

2. ensure it is fitted to your passenger seat securely

3. ensure the passenger seat is positioned as far back in the cabin as it will possibly go

4. drive sensibly

 

For the 350Z I can highly recommend the Recaro Young Sport which will last until your child is 12yrs:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_499753_langId_-1_categoryId_165554

 

My daughter is the centre of my universe and god forbid anything ever hurt her, but I think you have to retain some perspective when assessing the 'risks' or you probably wouldn't allow them in a car in the first place.

 

And breathe... :)

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Katy, that is one of the best posts I've read on here. (And that's from someone who grew up when there were no seat belts or air bags in cars)

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yeah put em in ffs, people are way too cautious these days, when i was 4 i was steering my dads escort van down the road while he done the pedals,. my 4 year old does the same in both the gt4 and zed, my 8 year old wants to drive it on his own (not happening) and my 1 year old goes on my lap around the block and loves it. have also had them all on the bike with me too granted the baby and 4 year old were only a few hundred feet for them to see what it was like.

 

 

oh and klike katy the recaro seats for kids are the job

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Always a big call this - but I agree with most of the above, drive sensibly, make sure the seat is properly strapped in and fits the seat well, disable the airbag.

 

Otherwise keep your child indoors at all times with ten bolts on the doors, anti earthquake measures in place, flood protection and a laser weapon to repel the inevitable invasion of aliens to keep your child safe...

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Always a big call this - but I agree with most of the above, drive sensibly, make sure the seat is properly strapped in and fits the seat well, disable the airbag.

 

Otherwise keep your child indoors at all times with ten bolts on the doors, anti earthquake measures in place, flood protection and a laser weapon to repel the inevitable invasion of aliens to keep your child safe...

 

no bubble wrap just in case no??

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Hi all, Just about to buy a 350z.... The mrs said to me "Just double check that you can take Leo (3 1/2 years old) once a week to nursery...... I assumed that a front facing car seat would be fine! Im gutted to read that I "might" be putting them at risk. One of the advised recommendations is: Ask the vehicle manufacturer how far the airbag comes out as it deploys and whether it is safe to use a child seat. Does anyone have this information? I am fine in buying that Recaro seat. My question is do many other people have FRONT facing child seats in their 350z??? Thanks in advance.

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Hi all, Just about to buy a 350z.... The mrs said to me "Just double check that you can take Leo (3 1/2 years old) once a week to nursery...... I assumed that a front facing car seat would be fine! Im gutted to read that I "might" be putting them at risk. One of the advised recommendations is: Ask the vehicle manufacturer how far the airbag comes out as it deploys and whether it is safe to use a child seat. Does anyone have this information? I am fine in buying that Recaro seat. My question is do many other people have FRONT facing child seats in their 350z??? Thanks in advance.

 

Clunk click and he'll be fine (stick a cushion under his arse if he's too low).

 

Car seat that fits well as per Katy's post is neither here nor there in terms of saftey (I.e should be safe but try and disable airbag)

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If the child is small enough to need a booster seat, can't you just pop them in the boot? No need to worry about the airbags then, either.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi all, Just about to buy a 350z.... The mrs said to me "Just double check that you can take Leo (3 1/2 years old) once a week to nursery...... I assumed that a front facing car seat would be fine! Im gutted to read that I "might" be putting them at risk. One of the advised recommendations is: Ask the vehicle manufacturer how far the airbag comes out as it deploys and whether it is safe to use a child seat. Does anyone have this information? I am fine in buying that Recaro seat. My question is do many other people have FRONT facing child seats in their 350z??? Thanks in advance.

 

I tried to find out the airbag measurements from Nissan directly but they said they didn't know(?!) as the airbags are supplied by Takata Corporation. I spoke to their Technical Department, Customer Services and everyone in between so if you find out the answer I'd be really interested to know. In my experience Nissan will avoid answering any questions on the safety of a child seat as they do not want to be held liable if something happens.

 

Course it all depends what year 350Z you're looking at buying because I think the 2006/7 + models already have a 'disable airbag' switch installed as standard. Correct me if I'm wrong folks...

 

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I've jsut started looking into baby seats etc as wife is expecting in February.

 

I had a look through the book at the child restraint section and it refers to anchorage points (where fitted) had a look and definitely nothing there, has anyone looked into having these fitted or doing it themselves, any idea on difficultly or cost involved? I have an 05 Roadster if it makes any difference.

 

Some good informative posts above so thanks to all.

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If the child is small enough to need a booster seat, can't you just pop them in the boot? No need to worry about the airbags then, either.

 

Just tell them you're all going on a fairground round ride and lob 'em in the boot.

 

 

 

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I've jsut started looking into baby seats etc as wife is expecting in February.

 

I had a look through the book at the child restraint section and it refers to anchorage points (where fitted) had a look and definitely nothing there, has anyone looked into having these fitted or doing it themselves, any idea on difficultly or cost involved? I have an 05 Roadster if it makes any difference.

 

Some good informative posts above so thanks to all.

the coupe has the anchor points and the roadster doesnt

 

 

just my opinion as a firefighter dealing with and specializing in rtcs the last 11 years,

a forward facing seat like the recaro is as safe as you can be with your child in the z coupe(and what i use)this is down to the fact that with the seat back full and the recaro installed, the dead space between the airbag and the seat is greater than the deployment range of the airbag,however NEVER fit a rear facing seat in these cars if you value your child.

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Sorry to revive a old thread but my little boy just turned 3 and has discovered my zed roadster hideing in the garage and wont stop talking about it.. he goes car loud vroom vroom bamg bamg vroom vroom .. and now he really wants to go in it for a drive.. where can i find a child seat to fit the car and anyone know how you turn off the airbag??   Any help wpuld be very appreciated 

 

Many thanks 

 

Dan .

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43 minutes ago, Y23DRH said:

Sorry to revive a old thread but my little boy just turned 3 and has discovered my zed roadster hideing in the garage and wont stop talking about it.. he goes car loud vroom vroom bamg bamg vroom vroom .. and now he really wants to go in it for a drive.. where can i find a child seat to fit the car and anyone know how you turn off the airbag??   Any help wpuld be very appreciated 

 

Many thanks 

 

Dan .

From my research, any child seat that uses the seat belt to secure it on the seat will work. However, there isn't a switch in the zed that you can switch the airbag off hence making it illegal. You can remove the fuse or add a on/off switch to the airbag system, however you'll need to declare this to your insurance and I suspect they are very unlikely to accept this.

 

And for all those reason above, I'm selling my zed to get a 4-door car =(

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