Luke0549 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Guy died instantly. This is only a few miles away from me, must have been absolutely going some! http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/9882520.Man_dies_in_Bushey_car_crash/?ref=mr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Funny rant in the comments section. Clearly going a tad too fast for that sort of smash. What a waste of a car and life for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john180 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Well if it was due to speed which it looks like it is - thank god he never killed any passers by! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Well if it was due to speed which it looks like it is - thank god he never killed any passers by! Indeed, it's sad someone died but it's good no one else was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 It was reported on the BBC earlier in the week and was speed related, apparently he had been seen doing the same thing the day before, approaching the roundabout at speed, braking hard, round the roundabout and going back the way he came. The passenger was a lad, he survived and was the son of his friend, the owner was apparently showing off, to make matters worse he wasn't wearing his seatbelt and was thrown form the car on impact At least he didn't physically harm anyone else Well if it was due to speed which it looks like it is - thank god he never killed any passers by! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 It was reported on the BBC earlier in the week and was speed related, apparently he had been seen doing the same thing the day before, approaching the roundabout at speed, braking hard, round the roundabout and going back the way he came. The passenger was a lad, he survived and was the son of his friend, the owner was apparently showing off, to make matters worse he wasn't wearing his seatbelt and was thrown form the car on impact At least he didn't physically harm anyone else Well if it was due to speed which it looks like it is - thank god he never killed any passers by! No sense what so ever, and to not even wear a seatbelt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryl Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 What an idiot! Glad that nobody else was seriously hurt,though thats no consolation to family of the guy who died. Obviously If he had been wearing his harness or seatbelt,then he would have had a much better chance of survival. What a waste of a great car too. Mr Pagani im sure will be devastated by the loss of life, as well as the loss of one of his creations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ. Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I don't get why people put on seatbelts, its a literally 2 second job and it woudl have probably saved his life At least the passenger looks to have buckled up and more senceless loss of life was avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Funny rant in the comments section. Clearly going a tad too fast for that sort of smash. What a waste of a car and life for that matter. I agree about the rants. Even the death of a man cannot stop it turning into a dick measuring competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Just half a mile from my place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Sadly seems a combination of speed, no seatbelt and probably a spot of bad luck. If it hit a metal fence as some reports suggest, then that could have entered the cabin possibly. With regard to seatbelts, Ive seen something like this written before: If we had a button inside our cars that was marked "Increase chance of death or life altering injuries in the event of an accident in this vehicle", Nobody in their right mind would ever push it. Yet we all have one. Its the seatbelt release button. Condolences to his family, and hopefully it will be a reminder to others about using the power of a sports car sensibly, and always using a seatbelt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 If we had a button inside our cars that was marked "Increase chance of death or life altering injuries in the event of an accident in this vehicle", Nobody in their right mind would ever push it. Yet we all have one. Its the seatbelt release button. It would be pretty easy to to set up a system that forces you to put your seatbelt on before the car will start. The first car I ever hired in The States in 1981, a bog standard Ford Escort, had such a system fitted, although you could unclip the belt once the engine had fired up. I'm not sure how safe it would be to have all the belts electrically locked with the engine running but probably better than not having a belt on at all. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sir Jimmy's campain in the 70's was pretty effective: Clunk Click - every trip. Maybe a reminder of that rather than more interlocks could be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john180 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sir Jimmy's campain in the 70's was pretty effective: Clunk Click - every trip. Maybe a reminder of that rather than more interlocks could be used. They could re-run the ads! Everyone knows Jimmy and the message could still work as well as it did then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I have to admit I do not wear a belt. I have a medical exemption. I am not going to put the reasons on here as the debate seems to be."To wear or not to wear" However I am looking into a harness with a quick release system that has the clasp not fitted in the area of my naval. I have noticed that since I stopped wearing a belt I have slowed down! Does this mean that we get a false sence of security when we wear one. Although there was less deaths on the roads after the clunk click campaign I seem to remember an old Panorama type programme saying that road incidents had increased because people felt safer in there car and were driving a lot faster. Looking at the picture of the Zonda. would a belt of saved him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 You've only slowed down because of your age Pete I have to admit I do not wear a belt. I have a medical exemption. I am not going to put the reasons on here as the debate seems to be."To wear or not to wear" However I am looking into a harness with a quick release system that has the clasp not fitted in the area of my naval. I have noticed that since I stopped wearing a belt I have slowed down! Does this mean that we get a false sence of security when we wear one. Although there was less deaths on the roads after the clunk click campaign I seem to remember an old Panorama type programme saying that road incidents had increased because people felt safer in there car and were driving a lot faster. Looking at the picture of the Zonda. would a belt of saved him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 You've only slowed down because of your age Pete I have to admit I do not wear a belt. I have a medical exemption. I am not going to put the reasons on here as the debate seems to be."To wear or not to wear" However I am looking into a harness with a quick release system that has the clasp not fitted in the area of my naval. I have noticed that since I stopped wearing a belt I have slowed down! Does this mean that we get a false sence of security when we wear one. Although there was less deaths on the roads after the clunk click campaign I seem to remember an old Panorama type programme saying that road incidents had increased because people felt safer in there car and were driving a lot faster. Looking at the picture of the Zonda. would a belt of saved him? Meeeoooowwwww!! Sounds like a challange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tez162003 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 would a belt have saved him? Is that even a question worth asking knowing the facts of this story. The driver: Did not wear a seatbelt and died instantly The passenger: Did wear a seatbelt and didn't even need to go to hospital. I think that is enough proof that seat belts do indeed save lives. Also shows how safe these carbon cars can be if you use the safety devices they provide. The front end is mullered but the cabin looks okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Well there you go. Wear a belt!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 There will be accidents where wearing the seat belt is what leads to death. BUT, they are so very few compared to the vast majoity accidents where seat belts (and bags) will save lives. In this case it seems he got flung from the car on the intial impact whereas as his passenger survived because they were wearing a belt. Whatever, he was a total prat for driving with out due regard to his own and his pasengers life and others in an environment that could have led to far worse carnage. The sad thing is this kind of headlining stuff just adds fuel to the increasing distaste of those who consider we should be getting from A to B in less than 20mph in jazzed up milk floats Having just read AK350Z's write up on his J o'G to LE cycle trip - what was his most hazardous moment? - when an old biddy had no conception of speed she was doing and others around her that she nearly took Andy out by turning left in front of him - one of the cyclists worse scenarios. What speed was she doing - probably no more that 15mph, but again just an idiot driver who could have so easily killed Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tez162003 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Agreed, there are cases where seatbelts can be the contributing factor to a death during a crash, but the lives they save far outweigh the lives they take. Wear a seatbelt and don't drive like a tool and all will be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I don't get why people put on seatbelts, its a literally 2 second job and it woudl have probably saved his life At least the passenger looks to have buckled up and more senceless loss of life was avoided. Is that Why they don't put on seat belts lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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