Lincolnbaggie Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Not sure if this is a repost, but a bit scary.... http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/127250-accid ... i-did.html Makes you glad you've got the cheaper option really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 That is really crazy, all from a very minimal low speed impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 ho ho ho hoh my god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNABASHED Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 unbelievable! £11k for a bit of paint and resetting the pedestrian safety system?? Will that mean it could be possible to give the bumper a swift kick and pop the bonnet?! Could be very expensive for owners if that bit of info gets around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Jeez! £11k repair bill because of tiny crack in the front bumper - making the safety bonnet mechanism fire and causing all sorts of problems. If I had a GTR i'd take it back like what most of the GTROC guys have been saying. You'll forever be on pins driving it and even the slightest accident will make you really hate yourself and the car - all because of Nissan's pricing. I find it appauling that the most common damage to a car in a crash would be the front yet Nissan have designed such a system so it can't be easily reset - and there is hell no chance I'd pay £11k repair bill (you could buy a zed for that). It's metal and rubber at the end of the day. All the talk about "replacing ECU's", etc indicates Nissan developed the GTR with top dollar maintenance profit in mind. Its a hinge on the bonnet (why can't Nissan design it so you can just remove a latch and push it back down, take it to a Nissan dealer and reset the ECU - job done). Very worrying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 And this is why the car simply isn't the performance bargain it so desperately wants to be. That is utterly ridiculous money for that little lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 unbelievable! £11k for a bit of paint and resetting the pedestrian safety system?? Will that mean it could be possible to give the bumper a swift kick and pop the bonnet?! Could be very expensive for owners if that bit of info gets around! Your spot on there mate. Seriously, what if some punk decided to boot the front of the car knowing full well the owner will have to pay £11k to fix it (beats keying it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Bummer... Anyone care to hazzard a guess at another car which deploys this same pedestrian safety system which lifts the bonnet like that... Ill give you a clue - I dont fancy bumping my other car now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fien Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Ouch! Wouldnt like to have to pay the insurance premium for that next year!! you would expect to pay a premium for repairs on a car like that but that's poor design work for something so small to break so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Utter maddness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmarky Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Just be glad they didnt fit the system to the 370 or did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I think I wouldn't contemplate buying one now with that crazy repair bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1703 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 The £60k supercar suddenly doesn't seem so much of a bargain Couple of years servicing costs , replacement brakes & pads and a couple of minor front end impacts and you're up into the serious supercar territory anyway ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
introspect Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 It will be interesting to see what happens to residuals after a year or so when people start seeing stories like this. I think the cost of maintaining and repairing one of these far outweighs the relatively cheap price tag of the car itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev-the-Rev Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Unbelievable. I had no intenion of buying one of these before I read this but this has just added weight to my decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich5259 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I do NOT believe it!!! this is rediculous, residuals will crumble if it's proved to be this expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 One of these was ceratinly on my shortlist when it comes to buying a "fun" car, but with stories like this it certainly starts to look less appealing. That said, if you crack the bumper of a Fezza or Lamborghini, it aint going to be cheap. Its the fact it appears you simply cant reset these systems which seems very strange (and indeed expensive). If it is covered by insurance, its not the end of the world - however it wont take long for insurance companies to "adjust" their premiums based on the repair costs of these vehicles. Taking the initial purchase price into consideration the car starts to come scarily close, if not higher than the likes of the 911 turbo, F430 and Gallardo. I think its the movement of the cost onto running rather than initial outlay that is a worrying concept. That would dictate a point in time where the GTR becomes more expensive than other cars in its class, depending on how long you aim to keep the car would dictate whether it was worth it I suppose. A £55k car with an £11k fix, in one year is still cheaper than a £90k car with a £1k fix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 arent the gearboxes like £15k and because its fitted with a black box they know everything you do in it. so if you use the launch control it invalidates your warranty and you have to pay. so buying one second hand becomes alot more interesting because you don't know if someone used launch control and then 6 months into ownership your gear box goes bang and your left with a bill of £15k parts for this are very expensive and second hand ownership i think is really going to flash up the major issues with cost on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fien Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 15k for a gear box!! I remember Clarkson saying that the were all individually made so you never got 2 exactly the same but jesus christ that's 25% of the whole value of the car!! At this rate u could make a profit from buying one, breaking it up and selling the parts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I think there has been a lot of scare stories put around about the GTR and there has certainly been a fair bit of speculation as to various costs involved for various parts. The launch control debacle was certainly well publicised and an awful lot of figures were put around. I think until there are some real world uk examples of exactly how high these costs are then we cant speculate, but it does seem on the base of this simple bump that repair costs are very high in certain cases. That would not lead me to think the servicing costs and charges for worn gearboxes etc would be any less pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 i would hope that once the car has been around for a while that other companies will make parts at much cheaper costs. and hopefully bring down the cost of repairs. like on the 350z nissan charge lots for brake discs and pads, yet you can pick up better performance pads and discs for about half the price, or depend on which ones aqbout the same but better performance than original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev-the-Rev Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 15k for a gear box!! I remember Clarkson saying that the were all individually made so you never got 2 exactly the same but jesus christ that's 25% of the whole value of the car!! At this rate u could make a profit from buying one, breaking it up and selling the parts! The only problem with that is because each gearbox is individually made it will only work with the engine and transmission it was originally mated to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 15k for a gear box!! I remember Clarkson saying that the were all individually made so you never got 2 exactly the same but jesus christ that's 25% of the whole value of the car!! At this rate u could make a profit from buying one, breaking it up and selling the parts! The only problem with that is because each gearbox is individually made it will only work with the engine and transmission it was originally mated to. Not strictly true. The reason they are "mated" is because the ECU for the engine only speaks to the ECU for the gearbox that is supposed to be there. There were some rumours that the gearbox was tuned to a specific engine, but I think that was proven to be BS. When Big Phil got his they were looking at options and he knew people that were working on cracking the ECUs of both engine and gearbox, so by now I would expect someone like COBB know exactly how to mate a new gearbox to a different engine if it went pop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 i believe it was only the engines that were each individual and no 2 were the same, didn't know it applied to the gearboxes as well. clarkson talked about the fact that the BHP was different on each car due to the engines being hand built and each being different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 That is shocking. Bill is being obtained from the stealers so will be very interesting to see what the fallout is of this situation. Did that price include a reach around too Awesome comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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