Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Will be getting my car will be back on the road soon, and its paint work is not in the best condition. Its feeling quite rough and covered in swirls etc. So im planning on buying a polisher and learn how to cut and polish. Has anyone used one of these in the link... or are they just cheap crap? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Polishing-Machine-Polisher-Sander-Buffer-1400W-Tool-Box-XXL-Big-Sponge-Set-/221707761725?hash=item339ecff83d:g:fkkAAOSw~bFWNJUd Or can anyone recommend me a kit for under £100?? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's out of stock on this link but I have this: http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/machine-polishing-pads/car-polishers/dodo-juice-spin-doctor-rotary-v2/prod_806.html A friend that runs a detailing company also has one and uses it, as well as a bunch of others of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's out of stock on this link but I have this: http://www.cleanyour...2/prod_806.html A friend that runs a detailing company also has one and uses it, as well as a bunch of others of course. Thanks mate will keep a look out for this. Ideally I would like something cheaper, but I'm new to detailing so do not know what compromises there would be in spending less money and if it would affect me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I have a DA (dual action) polisher as well, you're less likely to 'burn through' to the paint with one of those - BUT - it seemed to take forever on some paints to get nice results. So this was my first rotary polisher and honestly, it's great. I've got no idea what the cheaper ones are like but just compare the specs and features to that one I posted, and if they are similar, yeah sure give it a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Cheers Rob. I take it the sponges/attachments are all interchangeable... For example better quality attachments from the Dodo Juice machine would fit straight onto a cheaper polishing machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 If you've not used one before, get a DA rather than a rotary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Polished Bliss do a good starter kit with a choice of polishers. Stick with a DA if it's your first time using one. Nissan paint is soft and you'll burn through with a rotary if you don't know what you're doing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 What's the difference between DA and a rotary? They look very similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 As I mentioned before, it's dual action, so moving in different directions: Honestly, I wouldn't bother with a DA. Just get yourself DECENT pads, that aren't too aggressive, and perhaps practice on a scrapyard bonnet or two first. Watch plenty of videos to see technique. Remember, several passes with less aggressive compounds (polish) and pads is better than wading in like a bull in a china shop. Sure you can purchase a cheaper rotary tool but the polish/pads etc should be good quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 YouTube it. DA - dual action. That way the paint never really heats up as the pad doesn't sit on one area for too long. I have a Kestrel DAS6 and find it really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Thanks everyone. I'm quite a quick but carefull learner so not put off by the rotary. Will have a look about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 DAS6 pro I use, it's perfectly good for swirl removal. Remember, the risk of cocking it up and needing a respray is far greater with a rotary Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Would a DA be powerful enough to remove over spray? When I brought the car nearly 2 years ago, down 1 side it feels and looks like theres some sort of lacquer/top coat over spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybhoy Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I believe the best correction is in the choice of pads and compounds used. I can't for the life of me remember the polisher I have as there is no branding on it though it came highly recommended in previous threads and it was around £160. I like to watch all the detailing vids on YouTube and when I have a go, I don't think the results I get are too far from the pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bradders- Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I've never used a DA always a rotary, its not easy to burn the paint, unless you really hold it down on a high speed on one place for too long, i've burnt a tailgate once, second time i ever used it, never done the same! not hard to get used to at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 I believe the best correction is in the choice of pads and compounds used. I can't for the life of me remember the polisher I have as there is no branding on it though it came highly recommended in previous threads and it was around £160. I like to watch all the detailing vids on YouTube and when I have a go, I don't think the results I get are too far from the pros. I feel confident and cautious enough to use a rotary. Like you say, lots YouTube vids and research, should be ok. Anyway I cant afford £160 after buying that Flywheel from you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 There is an excellent guide to machine polishing on the detailing world forums Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 There is an excellent guide to machine polishing on the detailing world forums Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Cheers buddy, masses of information on that site. Just what i needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Before you hit the paintwork with anything it would be worth getting your paintwork assessed with a paint depth gauge. It'll give you some idea of what you have to play with and how aggressive (or non aggressive ) you can be. Apparently Nissan paint is quite soft, so follow the advise of nearly all the obsessive detailers about and start with the least agressive first then go up in stages as necessary until you find what works Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 9, 2016 by Paul K 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybhoy Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 A big step I notice most videos seem to quickly brush over is a glaze. If you don't want to cut too much with polish then for light scratches apply a glaze before wax n it'll take all the little imperfections away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Great advice, thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I'd always recommend a DA both for the novice and for the soft Nissan paint - more so for the latter than the former. A DA with suitable technique, compounds and pads is more that sufficient for soft paint whereas a rotary is just overkill. That said there's no real harm in going for a rotary provided you know how to use and know the risks. If you're opting for the rotary then you really, really should go for a paint depth gauge too - I've never heard of anyone burning through with a DA but there's already been one on here with a rotary, so make your choice.... I appreciate its out of budget now but I'll always suggest this; http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/pb-soft-paint-polishing-kit-cat1.html for the Z. Buy some Poorboys Black Hole Glaze for now and that'll see you through until you have the extra pennies to spend on that kit. Regarding the overspray - first tackle it with a clay bar, start out with a medium grade and work up to something more aggressive if needed, which should remove it, then polish to tidy up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Problem is using a cheap rotary is like trying to cut a straight line with a butter knife. Nissan paint is terrifyingly thin. I remember taking a scratch out on a BMW.......sanding away for ages I was. Confidence up I did the same on a 350.......2 swipes of 1500 grit and I was through. I worked professionally with a DA for over 18 months.....you really don't need a rotary to correct a Zed. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 Ok, think I have been persuaded to go with the DA now. Due to the horror stories of the soft Nissan paint I've definitely been put off. Done loads of research last night (google+Youtube) and realise you can still get just as good results with a DA than a Rotary. Cheers lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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