They're good, for what they are. I've tried them on a VXR220, and they do offer more grip than normal tyre with better water displacement than the 888, I found them to be a bit compromised tbh. The dry grip isn't good enough to warrant picking these over a really good road tyre (MPSS, obviously), and the extra wet grip isn't spectacularly better than the 888. They do have a lot of feel though, something the 888s aren't massively good at by nature, and are certainly a decent tyre in their own right.