Mark@Abbey m/s Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Any one got any data to prove the Frozen Boost up grade actually works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Any one got any data to prove the Frozen Boost up grade actually works? Why wouldn't it work better? Same as putting a larger / thinker intercooler on surely? But still interested in actual readings ....... Over to you nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Right in my little drive tonight this is what I've found not fact just my observations from my obd reader On steady cruise when the car is up to temp I didn't see the intake temp drop below 43/50 degree On a steady cruise now it sits between 35/40 On hard excell before temps would instantly build anywhere as high as 60+ The point that Ian built my safe map and once I let off to drive steady it would take an age to come back to a resting point of 43/50 On hard excell now it seems to still get as high as 50 however as soon as you let off the power the temp seems to instantly sart dropping fast back to it's resting point of 35/40 If you sit in traffic and let it heat soak it will still reach upto 70 degree However the difference comes once you start moving ie the temps drop dramatically faster than before with the stillen kit I must stress I am now messuring this from the ecu which is reading from the manifold sensor that Ian fitted at the back of the manifold. as the stillen kit messures before its drawn threw the supercharger i believe and think mark will confirm that the gtm kit already dose this . The coolant temp seems to remain stable as this was a concern with such a big cooler in the main air flow And oil temps are between 90 and 110 with the cooler moved back in real hot weather or on track I bet it would exceed 110 if I find that I'll go with a bigger oil cooler I'm thinking of trying some mocool type stuff in the system but I'm warry of running to much stuff threw it and clogging it up Also to bear in mind I have a sibon vented bonnet so this could affect things for better or worse The only reson I perused the frozenboost was because Ian said temps we're reaching dangerous temps on the dyno so built a safe map at 60 degrees and the car switches back to power maps below this. and said if you do anything now make it beter cooling. So I'm hoping to stay out of that 60 degree mark The other thing Ian did was change my car onto to cloosed loop as in open loop if your temps have goten high and you floor the car in wide open throttle the car just assumes all is we'll when you could have very high charge temps ....again I believe this is a stillen kit issue rather than other set ups more so with the way the manifold heat soaks I belevie mark now has my Base map from Ian and can do all these things for you with ecutec as well can Litchfield I'm going for a big drive at the weekend with a club and it will be hard so I'll report back Oh yeah apparently ecutec had a lengthy convo with stillen about this issue and there conclusion was the surface area of the stillen manifold just isn't big enough My conclusion it's not perfect but it's better Again these are just my findings do think shoot the messenger Edited July 6, 2015 by nissanman312 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'm hoping uprev can soon support a air temp sensor in my inlet as well , so I also can have it safe as possible ....... I wonder why stillen decided to put the mafs pre charger ? Nice little right up, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 EcuTek please. GTM kit is blow through the AFM so we are reading charged IAT not like on the Stillen kit. We can move the IAT from the stock AFM to post charge cooler with Uprev already. Just need to remove the charger cooler assembly and added an IAT sensor EcuTek are using a Nissan Juke DIG T map sensor that also reads IAT's We are going to add separate IAT and Map sensors when we fit a Stillen soon. Nissanman have you got a ECUTEK cable/Dongle to datalog ECU outputs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 No I haven't mark Why you want to do some loging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajw Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Mine was hot today. An hour of A-road driving, 5 mins in the petrol station heat soaking whilst I filled up, local roads with 15 mins of traffic. When I got home I popped the hood and measured the temp of the charge coolant. 53 degrees! How's that going to cool anything? No wonder the car was not letting me have any power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Frozen boost needed ! Also I'm not sure how accurate that reading would be compared to the actual inlet temp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) This was mine at around 630 this evening I'd been pushing her Aswell it goes up to 50 at very worst! and I mean 7000 revs each gear But comes straight back to this The car seems a lot more sprightly Aswell Obviously ignore that afr I was off throttle taking a screenshot for you guys Edited July 8, 2015 by nissanman312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Video from the rally we did if anyone wants a video making this guy is awesome He's young and aspiring so give him a shout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Great little video ..... Very professionally shot/ edited . Looked like a great trip with some fantastic cars and roads ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 Just realised I've done 13000 miles in my z in a year is not even a daily Need to slow down a bit lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Video from the rally we did if anyone wants a video making this guy is awesome He's young and aspiring so give him a shout Nice vid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajw Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Just realised I've done 13000 miles in my z in a year is not even a daily Need to slow down a bit lol Screw that! These are made for driving, not posing! Get out in it!! (Says he, playing with a 370 on an Xbox) Edited July 19, 2015 by dajw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 Just realised I've done 13000 miles in my z in a year is not even a daily Need to slow down a bit lol Screw that! These are made for driving, not posing! Get out in it!! (Says he, playing with a 370 on an Xbox) Oh yeah for sure Ecu tek cables arives tomorrow so I'll be out doing some logging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 New toy to play with hopefully sort a couple of bits and some remote map tweeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 New toy to play with hopefully sort a couple of bits and some remote map tweeks I hope you know what your doing !! Next post ......... " knocking sound coming from the engine " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 Lmao Is to try and prevent that lol I have miss fire codes coming up And knock warning we need to find out if it's a problem in the mapp or hardware issue Also be good to do some loging maybey tweek the map its running a lot cooler now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ok so been doing my first bit of loging to try and iron out and diognose a couple of problems hopefully within the map and not hardware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Looks like someone has died .....flat line!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Just had my revised file sent over so shall load that up later and do some loging Dead handy this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Just had my revised file sent over so shall load that up later and do some loging Dead handy this Don't rub it in too much Wish ecutec would do it for the 50 ! Edited July 23, 2015 by Bodyboarder81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The same can be done with the UpRev cable Josh, you can do your own logging, send it to Jez, he can send you the updated ROM file and you can load it in the ECU. Have one available if you need one. Adrian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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