nissanman312 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Question people? and this is a hypthetical question when having a install such as this done what guarantee if any should the work being done by the garage carry ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I think they will only guarantee the right method off fitting the supplied parts ..... As in if they've fitted the part wrong then they are liable , would be very hard to prove I would imagine though ! Any more updates today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) I think they will only guarantee the right method off fitting the supplied parts ..... As in if they've fitted the part wrong then they are liable , would be very hard to prove I would imagine though ! Any more updates today? Nope very very slow process I belevie there are guys off so there struggling with work loads and haven't done this kit before so steady seems to be the way it's going Saying that I am expecting it back Saturday afternoon I think 9.5 days is enough Those fitting never were found mate I think they lost Them Edited April 14, 2015 by nissanman312 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Ok little update I've spoken to Ian and he said he's hoping to fire up tomorrow and start mapping satarday and Monday He had said that ecutec have strongly recommended that he doesn't fit the fuel return system as all the ecu calculations Are based on the existing fuel setup don't quote me on that as I'm not technically minded but he said somthing like that So I'll not be back in the car until another week yet Edited April 16, 2015 by nissanman312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Ok little update I've spoken to Ian and he said he's hoping to fire up tomorrow and start mapping satarday and Monday He had said that ecutec have strongly recommended that he doesn't fit the fuel return system as all the ecu calculations Are based on the existing fuel setup don't quote me on that as I'm not technically minded but he said somthing like that So I'll not be back in the car until another week yet Oh man , sorry nick ! Sure it will all be worth it when you get it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hey if the car comes back with a good reliable setup I'm happy all I can do is wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hey if the car comes back with a good reliable setup I'm happy all I can do is wait I know from a lot of posts you've made about how worried you were and you wanted it all setup perfect but mainly you wanted it as safe and reliable as possible. Just my question is, how come you didn't take it to a garage that had installed this SC before? I don't doubt their work, but if I was worrying about installation and having it setup correct, I'd of chosen some place that had done this install many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hey if the car comes back with a good reliable setup I'm happy all I can do is wait I know from a lot of posts you've made about how worried you were and you wanted it all setup perfect but mainly you wanted it as safe and reliable as possible.Just my question is, how come you didn't take it to a garage that had installed this SC before? I don't doubt their work, but if I was worrying about installation and having it setup correct, I'd of chosen some place that had done this install many times. You don't know just how much I wished I had Ah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Right just had a good chat with litchfield requarding my car They have said there more than happy to fit the fuel return system if I want them to but seem to think that the ecutec software is so much slicker than the upRev that they can manage things from the ecu a lot better to do with fueling I don't know I'm no expert obviously He's going to tune it getting running see how is all running and then the fuel return will go in at a later date if needed So this time next week it should be back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Any other comment I've already made it on our chats today, Nic. Very, very disappointed, makes me reconsider buying a GTR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 There's some light in sight then! I'm sure they are leaning on the safe side of things ..... So as you say , when you get the car back see how it goes and maybe get abbey / Horsham to fit the fuel return and check it all over? I think abbey use ecutec ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Any other comment I've already made it on our chats today, Nic. Very, very disappointed, makes me reconsider buying a GTR Adrian you have to get a gtr and I'm sure they're work with them is impeccable he wouldn't be where his I'd today if it wasn't my install is a first for them and I think that's one of the reasons is going slower than it would with the likets of abbey /Horsham I think it will come good in the end one way or another I put it in there hands have to except the speed things get done at I guess There's some light in sight then! I'm sure they are leaning on the safe side of things ..... So as you say , when you get the car back see how it goes and maybe get abbey / Horsham to fit the fuel return and check it all over? I think abbey use ecutec ? Yes mate had a good chat tonight and should be back with me next week Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Good news mate And as you've said , litchfield have a very very good reputation with some very expensive cars . I'm sure they are just learning as they go on yours so you get the best outcome . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajw Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 What's the beef between Ecutek and Uprev? They both provide the same outcome, do they not? I'd like some informed opinion on this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 What's the beef between Ecutek and Uprev? They both provide the same outcome, do they not? I'd like some informed opinion on this one! think ecutec just had new software then 6 months later uprev will have new stuff Sorry dom not informed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajw Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That's ok Nic- just interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think its perhaps like the I phone and Samsung war lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Base map going on this arvo so she should fire up today ready for tuning exciting times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Base map going on this arvo so she should fire up today ready for tuning exciting times Ya !!! That's great nic ..... Happy days , all in time for summer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 The reason to use a fuel return system to keep the differential fuel pressure the same once the car is on boost. Base fuel pressure is around 50/52psi on the stock 370Z with a dead end fuel system as fitted as stock. Once you add FI when the car is running boost the boost pressure lowers the fuel pressure i.e if the car was running 11psi of boost the fuel pressure would then run at 40psi this can cause issues with atomisation of the fuel through the injectors. Running a fuel return system allows the fuel pressure to remain the same as the rising rate fuel pressure regulator adds fuel pressure in relation to boost pressure. The more boost you run the better it is to go to rising rate fuel return system as more boost pressure lowers the base fuel pressure. You can tune a FI car without a fuel return system the fuel calibration map looks funny as you need more injector duty cycle at high rpm/load as the fuel pressure isn't increased with boost pressure. EcuTek and Uprev will tune the car fine I feel with both the dead end fuel rail and rising rate fuel return system Ecutek does a few different things than the Uprev but they both retune the stock ecu to run FI. Hope this helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 Thanks Mark apricate that information so with a stillen kit running the standard pulley what sort of boost would you be running? And in your opinion would it be possible to reach somewhere around the 4/420 wHP point without the fuel return safely or is it best to stick it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 You've bought it nick ...... I'd get them to plumb it in Call me when you get a chance and I can give you that number for mishimoto stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Little update the cars up and running well, and on the dyno to start getting it mapped Edited April 21, 2015 by nissanman312 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Getting close now then ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Wo Josh wo don't get ahead of yourself lol Hoping so mate satarday would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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