Ebized Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 I thought Pirelli mounted the tyres to the rims and not the teams. You saw at silverstone the Pirelli tyre fitting station They do (and it was the case with Bridgestone and others before Pirelli got the contract) but its down to the teams to ensure the wheels are then fitted on the correct sides as we see when the blankets go on with the directional arrows but I doubt very much that several teams would end up 'swapping sides' with the wheels and if anyone saw an advantage doing that it would be Red Bull who didn't have the issue.......
AliveBoy Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 I thought Pirelli mounted the tyres to the rims and not the teams. You saw at silverstone the Pirelli tyre fitting station They do (and it was the case with Bridgestone and others before Pirelli got the contract) but its down to the teams to ensure the wheels are then fitted on the correct sides as we see when the blankets go on with the directional arrows but I doubt very much that several teams would end up 'swapping sides' with the wheels and if anyone saw an advantage doing that it would be Red Bull who didn't have the issue....... Full list of drivers affected, RedBull are on the list L8: Lewis Hamilton - left rear explosion L10: Fernando Alonso – right rear deflation but pitted before explosion L11: Felipe Massa – left rear explosion L13: Sebastian Vettel – cuts to left rear but pitted before deflation L15: Jean-Eric Vergne – left rear explosion L29: Esteban Gutierrez – cuts that led to left front failure L42: Nico Rosberg – left rear vibration but pitted before failure L46: Sergio Perez – left rear explosion
M13KYF Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 I thought Pirelli mounted the tyres to the rims and not the teams. You saw at silverstone the Pirelli tyre fitting station They do (and it was the case with Bridgestone and others before Pirelli got the contract) but its down to the teams to ensure the wheels are then fitted on the correct sides as we see when the blankets go on with the directional arrows but I doubt very much that several teams would end up 'swapping sides' with the wheels and if anyone saw an advantage doing that it would be Red Bull who didn't have the issue....... but its fitting of the tyre to the rim thats the issue and not the wheel to the car. If the inner designated edge of tyre is been fitted to outer odge of the wheel ( so effectively the tyre is the wrong way round) then this is where the issue happens at pirelli.
CrumbMC Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 I thought Pirelli mounted the tyres to the rims and not the teams. You saw at silverstone the Pirelli tyre fitting station They do (and it was the case with Bridgestone and others before Pirelli got the contract) but its down to the teams to ensure the wheels are then fitted on the correct sides as we see when the blankets go on with the directional arrows but I doubt very much that several teams would end up 'swapping sides' with the wheels and if anyone saw an advantage doing that it would be Red Bull who didn't have the issue....... but its fitting of the tyre to the rim thats the issue and not the wheel to the car. If the inner designated edge of tyre is been fitted to outer odge of the wheel ( so effectively the tyre is the wrong way round) then this is where the issue happens at pirelli. The wheels can then just be mounted on opposite sides though surely?
AliveBoy Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I thought Pirelli mounted the tyres to the rims and not the teams. You saw at silverstone the Pirelli tyre fitting station They do (and it was the case with Bridgestone and others before Pirelli got the contract) but its down to the teams to ensure the wheels are then fitted on the correct sides as we see when the blankets go on with the directional arrows but I doubt very much that several teams would end up 'swapping sides' with the wheels and if anyone saw an advantage doing that it would be Red Bull who didn't have the issue....... but its fitting of the tyre to the rim thats the issue and not the wheel to the car. If the inner designated edge of tyre is been fitted to outer odge of the wheel ( so effectively the tyre is the wrong way round) then this is where the issue happens at pirelli. The wheels can then just be mounted on opposite sides though surely? Yep! Switch the wheel to the wrong side of the car and the tyre goes the wrong way round.
Ekona Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Well chuffed for him, hope he does well. Fair play to RB for giving him the chance as well over an easier choice like Kimi or Alcocko.
350 Russ Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 i think we all knew it was going to be ricciardo, no way would they let seb be a teammate to someone with a strong personality like kimi or alonso. imagine he pulled the same crap with either of them 2 like he did with webber.
Ekona Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 I very much doubt Seb had much of a say in the decision. Asked for input definitely, same as Webber, but very little weight would be behind his words. He's paid to drive, nothing more. RB want the best drivers but want to pay as little as possible, and Ricciardo certainly falls into that category.
BillyZed Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Massa isn't going to be in a Ferrari next year!! Finally
Ekona Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Alonso's last year with the team from Modena, then. He won't stick around if he's not a number one, so potentially a swap to RB with Seb going the other way could be on the cards for 2015.
BillyZed Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Yeah think that's right, Kimi will go Ferrari in 2014 which will **** alonso off so my guess is he will swap with Vettel Vettel in a Ferrari will be awesome
Ekona Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Yeah, let's see the crowds at Monza boo him then!
BillyZed Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 he will be the hero then Surely the Hulk will go to lotus!
Ekona Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 You'd have thought so, unless they fancy giving someone else a punt, maybe someone from GP3?
BillyZed Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 It's a gamble to have a rookie and Grosjean though It appears sauber have already kicked him out of that team as that young Russian has paid for a seat
AliveBoy Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 That's if Lotus even exist next year, they've got massive money issues and losing Kimi isn't going to help that, they got a lot of sponsors purely because he went to them.
CrumbMC Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) I know seb had an agreement with Ferrari a few years ago but there's no way he'll want to swap teams with RB in the form they're in. Also Horner newey and seb all seem to be in a live triangle. Unless they lose their dominance (which may well happen next year) I can't see Vettel moving from red bull. That said Ferrari have the two most consistently good (apart from Vettel maybe) drivers in f1s recent history. Surely they are looking good for the manufacturers championship next year. A lot revolves around whether Riciardo finds his form. Also there maybe one team who has found a loop hole and dominates next year regardless of drivers like brawn did when Jb won. It's all speculation and i'm sure we'll all be completely wrong in the end. Edited September 11, 2013 by CrumbMC
BillyZed Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I'm sure they will get someone in with money
BillyZed Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I wonder if Mclaren will find form next year!? Be good to see so many teams fighting for the championships
CrumbMC Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I wonder if Mclaren will find form next year!? Be good to see so many teams fighting for the championships I'm sure they will return to form soon. They can't afford not too!! However I don't think they have a very good driver line up. Perez is average and JB is very good on his day but its not his day very often. Mercedes have a huge budget and some big players In their team. I would say they are the favourites for next year performance wise. However I don't like to speculate too much. As I said in my last post there is sure to be some kind of double diffuser moment with such a big shake up in the regs. I think the lower teams will be nowhere near the front runners next year too.
Jetpilot Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 I am not sure i am that fussed at the moment as who gets what ride, unless the teams get on terms with Redbull it wont matter who is driving. Lets home it happens soon imho.
HaydnH Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Mercedes have a huge budget and some big players In their team. I would say they are the favourites for next year performance wise. Huge budget and big players doesn't necessarily mean results, look at McLaren over the last 20 odd years, for example, I always thought Toyota would do a lot better than they ever did considering their results in other motorsports.
BillyZed Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Kimi has been signed by Ferrari for 2014
Chris AME Posted September 11, 2013 Posted September 11, 2013 Will be interesting to see the Alonso Kimi relationship develop
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