HEL Brake Lines... Help Please! :(

[Paddy78]

Hi,

 

My car is currently in the garage having some new brakes and HEL Lines fitted. I thought that this was going to be a straightforward procedure, but I have just had a call saying that they will not fit the front lines as they are dangerous / MOT fail… They have said that because there are no brackets, that they chafe against the suspension.

 

They have fitted the short ones on the rear and were going to put the long on the front. They also mentioned that the rears were not ideal, but because there is not steering movement it would be ok?

 

Any advice / help greatly appreciated as I would like my car back for the weekend?

 

Cheers,

 

Paddy

[coldel]

Loads of people on here have fitted HKS and HEL brake lines no problem. The garage needs to use the clips that came with the brake lines to secure them to the inside of the wheel brackets out the way of the wheels.

 

Also, the OEM lines have screw in both ends, the HEL have a screw in one end and a loop and bolt the other end which attaches to the caliper. They will need to sand down the caliper area to make sure it is flat and flush against the bolt (you might have some corrosion there) so there is no leakage.

[coldel]

http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=46884

and some pictures on this post

 

http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=57512&hilit=brake+lines&start=15

and a post I started up when putting on my HKS lines (same as HEL)

[Wasso]

I had my local garage fit mine, and they also had to adapt/fur the lines. So they thought outside the box and made a suitable bracket for the lines.

 

Clearly the garage you have taken the car to are either anal or don't want to do the customer a favour.

 

Slip them a drink and say fit it and make it safe. It's not difficult for the garage unless they are lacking experience.

[ZMANALEX]

Pat,

 

If the garage uses the 2 x P clips that comes with the kit then the front lines will be secure

 

Edit: I am assuming that the HEL lines do come with 2 x P clips.

 

Alex

[Paddy78]

Thanks for the quick replies guys!

 

My kit didn't have any clips, which is why they are clearly having problems!

[Wasso]

My HEL didn't have the clips either.

 

Basically the old lines have a purpose built bracket. When that is removed, there's technically nothing but the suspension leg to attach them to.

 

As Alex says get some P clips fit them in the old suspension bolt hole - done.

[coldel]

aaaah, yeah my HKS came with the clips.

 

Simple job of attaching them then jobs a good 'un.

[Paddy78]

The garage are going to try to use the old bracket to secure them. Although, they scoffed at the idea that the new lines would help improve braking...

 

Hopefully it'll all be sorted now.

[coldel]

Mechanics that dont understand what braided brake lines do...be afraid

[cmck13]

Had the same problem with mine but instead of being part of the problem my mechanic solved it by fitting them so they didnt chafe. Were they wearing stetsons and cowboy boots, sounds like it.

[Paddy78]

To be fair to the garage they just told me on the grounds of safety. They were missing the clips afterall. They have looked after my Zed very well so far and were recommended by a member on here who also takes their Zed there.

[coldel]

...it was more that they scoffed that new lines would improve breaking which I found concerning.

[spursmaddave]

The only thing mentioned on my last MOT was that my braided lines were not secured, still passed but they mentioned it would be an idea to secure them

[Paddy78]

...it was more that they scoffed that new lines would improve breaking which I found concerning.

 

Yeah, it did strike me as a bit odd, but I think the guy is a proper old school mechanic... Oh well...

 

Incidentally, how are you finding the Black Diamond setup as this is what I went for?

[Neilp]

My Hel lines came with clips. The older batches never.

[KyleR]

My Hel lines came with clips. The older batches never.

 

But weren't the old batches 6 piece that connected to the OEM bracket with hardline?

[Neilp]

My Hel lines came with clips. The older batches never.

 

But weren't the old batches 6 piece that connected to the OEM bracket with hardline?

Nope. The original kit came without clips which was highlighted to Hel and the newer batches came with clips. Ive had mines about a year and they came with clips.

[Sam Mcgoo]

Ive had mines about a year and they came with clips.

 

 

+1

[p40ulw]

what colours have people gone for and how long did it take them to be delivered? also where did they get thenm and how much?

[ZMANALEX]

I stock Hel and HKS both in carbon black.

 

I also have Goodridge 4 and 6 line type for 350/370 and R35 GTR.

 

Alex.

[p40ulw]

I stock Hel and HKS both in carbon black.

 

I also have Goodridge 4 and 6 line type for 350/370 and R35 GTR.

 

Alex.

 

PM sent

[ZonixX]

sorry to hijack the old thread, but I came across the following issue, while trying to replace my OEM brake lines with new HEL ones - the thread, that goes to the Brembo caliper is much longer than on the stock line.. as a result, much of the thread is visible, even after tightening the line to the caliper... is this normal?

 

 

 

front caliper tightened - but thread still exposed

 

 

rear caliper, the same situation

 

[-Bradders-]

Thats fine, thats how mine are, they make them oversized as they are kinda like a one size fits all.

[ZonixX]

many thanks Bradders!