rtbiscuit Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Ok this is something i've heard mentioned in passing by 3fiddyZ and this is the only one i can find at the moment http://www.car-stuff.com/mmparts/nissan ... pacer.html interested to know how many people are running these, and what peoples thoughts are? i'm struggling to see how increasing the distance the air has to travel will increase poerformance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 You're the engineer with a teaching degree....figure it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 You're the engineer with a teaching degree....figure it out! I suspect the answer is, if nobody is running one, they do so all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 You're the engineer with a teaching degree....figure it out! Very helpful comment. Well Adam@Z1 sells them so it might be worth asking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 You're the engineer with a teaching degree....figure it out! Very helpful comment. Well Adam@Z1 sells them so it might be worth asking him. Aye, but Adams has a real purpose - unlike most of the others out there http://z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model=35 ... rodid=2413 Hope he doesnt mind me nabbing the piccy The AAM Spec. Throttle Body Spacer is a great addition to any upgraded 350Z or G35. Each AAM Spec. Throttle Body Spacer comes pre-tapped with three vacuum ports. This saves both time and money when running vacuum lines (no need to tap the factory intake plenum with this spacer). Because you have more vacuum ports available you can run components seperately (ie. map sensor, boost gauge, fuel pressure regulator, boost controller, etc.) which improves both their performance and reliability. This will fit any VQ35DE engine (350Z, G35, Maxima, Altima). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 22hp? bit optermistic isnt it? considering a plenum spacer gains about 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 22hp? bit optermistic isnt it? considering a plenum spacer gains about 12 i was laughing at that aswell dont forget the vast Mpg improvements too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee22 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I thought the point of these was purely that they made it easier to run lines off for a boost gauge, to the ECU etc. Can't see how it would make any performance difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Ok this is something i've heard mentioned in passing by 3fiddyZ and this is the only one i can find at the moment http://www.car-stuff.com/mmparts/nissan ... pacer.html interested to know how many people are running these, and what peoples thoughts are? i'm struggling to see how increasing the distance the air has to travel will increase poerformance You have pm mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I thought the point of these was purely that they made it easier to run lines off for a boost gauge, to the ECU etc. Can't see how it would make any performance difference. There is a clue in here Crafted from precision-machined T-6061 aircraft solid-billet aluminum for long lasting performance; Engineered to provide increased air-flow and performance throughout the power band; Features computer-designed chambers and channels to improve air velocity performance; Its variable venturi aperture provides turbulence to mix the air and fuel charge for a complete burn efficiency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 You're the engineer with a teaching degree....figure it out! surprised at that one, your normally full of opinions, just got off a long shift? and actually i'm the teacher with an engineering degree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 You're the engineer with a teaching degree....figure it out! surprised at that one, your normally full of opinions, just got off a long shift? and actually i'm the teacher with an engineering degree The missus has some handbags you chaps can borrow if you need them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 You're the engineer with a teaching degree....figure it out! surprised at that one, your normally full of opinions, just got off a long shift? and actually i'm the teacher with an engineering degree Acoustical engineering Aquatic and environmental engineering Aerospace (Aeronautical) engineering Agricultural engineering Architectural engineering Automotive engineering (automotive systems engineering) Biological engineering Biological systems engineering Biomedical engineering Biomaterials engineering Bioresource engineering Ceramic Technology Chemical engineering Civil engineering Coastal engineering Combat engineering Communications system engineering Computer engineering Construction engineering Control engineering (control systems engineering) Cost engineering Earthquake engineering Ecological engineering Electrical engineering Electronics engineering (includes microelectronics engineering, microelectronics and semiconductor engineering) Electromechanical engineering Engineering science and mechanics Engineering physics (engineering science) Environmental engineering Computational finance (financial engineering) Fire protection engineering Food Technology Forensic engineering Forest Technology Genetic engineering Geomatics engineering Geotechnical engineering Hydraulic engineering Industrial engineering (includes production engineering) Information engineering Instrumentation engineering Integrated engineering Landscape engineering (landscape architecture) Leather technology Marine engineering Materials engineering (includes metallurgical engineering) Mechanical engineering Manufacturing engineering Mechatronics Microsystems engineering Military engineering Minerals process engineering Mineral engineering Mining engineering Nanotechnology Neural engineering Ocean engineering Optical engineering Packaging technology Paper technology Photovoltaics engineering Petroleum engineering Plastics engineering Polymer engineering Power engineering Process engineering Quality engineering (quality assurance engineering) Reliability engineering Safety engineering Sales process engineering Sanitation engineering Security engineering Sewage engineering Software engineering Structural engineering Surveying Systems engineering (systems design engineering) Textile engineering Thermodynamic engineering Tissue engineering Traffic engineering Transportation engineering (transport engineering) Vacuum engineering Value engineering how many of them actually understand the inner workings of the engine and the effects of a throttle body spacer. Engineer is a very blanket term, for instance as a mechatronics engineer i have no idea about textiles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee22 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Intriguing I might be (probably am being..) a bit slow here but I can't see how adding a spacer prior to the plenum makes such a big difference. I thought the point of these was purely that they made it easier to run lines off for a boost gauge, to the ECU etc. Can't see how it would make any performance difference. There is a clue in here Crafted from precision-machined T-6061 aircraft solid-billet aluminum for long lasting performance; Engineered to provide increased air-flow and performance throughout the power band; Features computer-designed chambers and channels to improve air velocity performance; Its variable venturi aperture provides turbulence to mix the air and fuel charge for a complete burn efficiency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanS16 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I thought the point of these was purely that they made it easier to run lines off for a boost gauge, to the ECU etc. Can't see how it would make any performance difference. There is a clue in here Crafted from precision-machined T-6061 aircraft solid-billet aluminum for long lasting performance; Engineered to provide increased air-flow and performance throughout the power band; Features computer-designed chambers and channels to improve air velocity performance; Its variable venturi aperture provides turbulence to mix the air and fuel charge for a complete burn efficiency So in your opinion are you likely to see a performance gain on an NA Zed Alex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I thought the point of these was purely that they made it easier to run lines off for a boost gauge, to the ECU etc. Can't see how it would make any performance difference. There is a clue in here Crafted from precision-machined T-6061 aircraft solid-billet aluminum for long lasting performance; Engineered to provide increased air-flow and performance throughout the power band; Features computer-designed chambers and channels to improve air velocity performance; Its variable venturi aperture provides turbulence to mix the air and fuel charge for a complete burn efficiency So in your opinion are you likely to see a performance gain on an NA Zed Alex? I fully understand how it is meant to work but I don't think that there would be a noticeable difference Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 i was just interested to see what peoples opinions on it would be, seeing as its a car forum i thought a discussion on a car part might have been apt. stupid me; should have posted something useful about pants as for engineering degree mine was engineering design and Technology specialising in a wide variety of engineering including Fluid dynamics solid mechanics electronics Materials science and research Manufacturing techniques CAD Design (specifically AutoCAD, Catia V4 and V5) Design TQM project management manufactuing management did lots of other things but can't remember them off hand covered lots of engineering principles but the majority of what i know about cars is self taught and through expereince, reading and being part of forums. anyway back on topic, i can see the point of the ones with the vac lines, and i read the speal on what the science behind them was, but wanted to hear from people who run them to see if there was any real world info behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee22 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 +1 Anyone running one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanS16 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I thought the point of these was purely that they made it easier to run lines off for a boost gauge, to the ECU etc. Can't see how it would make any performance difference. There is a clue in here Crafted from precision-machined T-6061 aircraft solid-billet aluminum for long lasting performance; Engineered to provide increased air-flow and performance throughout the power band; Features computer-designed chambers and channels to improve air velocity performance; Its variable venturi aperture provides turbulence to mix the air and fuel charge for a complete burn efficiency So in your opinion are you likely to see a performance gain on an NA Zed Alex? I fully understand how it is meant to work but I don't think that there would be a noticeable difference Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 +1 Anyone running one? Yep! They have a rifle effect and as Alex says, I understand what they do and the principle but not sure it it makes a difference! May have to take it off and run it on the dyno again or give it to mark for testing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 +1 Anyone running one? Yep! They have a rifle effect and as Alex says, I understand what they do and the principle but not sure it it makes a difference! May have to take it off and run it on the dyno again or give it to mark for testing! Mark, that is the same one that I have available for sale without the vacuum take offs. Do you know the Branding ? Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 No idea mate, bought it off another member on NS some time ago.. Send it down, will try both and see if it adds 30bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 No idea mate, bought it off another member on NS some time ago.. Send it down, will try both and see if it adds 30bhp Might be an idea to create the rifle effect all the way along the inside of the CAI pipe and if you get a gain of 15 on a 20mm spacer then think off all the new found power you will have with this clever performance upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 You need those bits of Dyson hoovers that make the "cyclone" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 You need those bits of Dyson hoovers that make the "cyclone" + = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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