chr15g Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 http://www.importpartspro.com/kissupandlop.html Any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Fixed the link Probably if you have loads of other mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Best suited to Forced Induction cars. A plenum spacer will do the job on an NA car though! Damn - I fixed the link too Dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It wont add power if you are running a standard ECU. Its a learning ECU, and dials out any power gains within a day or so. RSTuning have just become one of the first over here to successfully remap the standard ECU for circa £500. This would be the way to go. Someone with more tech knowledge will be along shortly Im sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset350z Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 That does look very good, but you will still need to get the car tuned to reap any improvements. Just for bling and sound i think its worth it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chr15g Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Ah.. just curious, as i remember how many folk said the engine was very hard and expensive to get more horses out of... Just looked a tad "too good to be true" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny1 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It wont add power if you are running a standard ECU.Its a learning ECU, and dials out any power gains within a day or so. RSTuning have just become one of the first over here to successfully remap the standard ECU for circa £500. This would be the way to go. Someone with more tech knowledge will be along shortly Im sure[/quote] I'M THAT TECH PERSON: Had that thingy to that thingy, shake well, dismantle that thingy and there you have it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset350z Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 If i was planning on getting a remap from RSTuning, i would love to have that on my car Interesting to see what gains could be had. Plus no one else has one...........yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanS16 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 ooohh shiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 ooohh shiny You're like a bloody magpie you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Wait for Alex and Adam. It makes a good shiney doorstop for NA car owners No chance you will get 30HP out of it unless FI! Even then I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Wait for Alex and Adam. It makes a good shiney doorstop for NA car owners No chance you will get 30HP out of it unless FI! Even then I doubt it. Im sure Alex has/had one on his car Im sure baptist had one on his TT Z at one point aswell & lost power over the APS plenum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam@Z1auto.com Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 it's best left as a paperweight - just like all their previous plenums the plenum spacer is what is worth having on a pre 2006 car. On a 2006 model, the plenum spacer coupled with the 2003-2005 model year collector (the piece that sits between the upper plenum and the lower runners that go to the heads) on an all out high rpm engine, the Cosworth is the piece to have, or something custom if you so desire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset350z Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Any particular reason why its crap? I do like it a lot but i could live with the cosworth one as well. When i win the lottery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Wait for Alex and Adam. It makes a good shiney doorstop for NA car owners No chance you will get 30HP out of it unless FI! Even then I doubt it. Im sure Alex has/had one on his car I beleive he welded the buggery out of it to get it to hold together though Best heed Adams advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset350z Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I remember that thread, but didn't Kinetix bring out a revised version that would hold together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I still run with the Kinetix SSV Plenum but as most of you will know I had to reweld the seams to try and keep it together, with it being stainless I could not weld myself so it had to go to a local specialist. Abbey have also welded it twice. There is no advantage with NA but as it is made of toilet paper then it is troublesome on FI with high numbers. It was only the seams that gave way as per the picture. The early ones were only fused together but I believe the later ones are welded properly but I have yet to see one. The advantage of the SSV to me is that it leaves plenty room for the coolant header and also loadsa room for the TB which as you will see is now cable, so there is plenty room for the butterfly lever, also access to the plugs is much easier. I also have an idle control valve welded into the underside of the SSV plenum. As you will see from the graphs below the SSV plenum certainly does it job but it does not like high numbers as only the other week I had it off again for more welding. If it lets me down again then I will definately swop it out for the Cosworth plenum which I have sitting here waiting to be fitted, in fact I would have done it already but it would mean another 1000 mile round trip to Abbey for a remap and I would also have to turn the TB 180 degrees so that the linkage is on the rear + the idle control valve would have to welded into the cast/alumium Cosworth plenum. I would also have to find another location for the coolant header. Anyway some pictures for you. These numbers are from the hubs and not the fly. Plenum ruptured along the top seam. How it looks with the SSV Cover Present set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I just bought one... new revised version I'd say they sorted out their problems. Heard that they Cosworth had their share of problems too and left a group buy waiting for a long time before they got their plenum.. and to a bit more of a heftier price tag. I've heard that the old one needed to be welded shut in an FI running high PSI application, I'm sure the lifetime warrant will help here ... Anyway fecki' like the look and more then likely will give a bit more pull... not 30... but maybe 10-12 like the plenum spacer... hopefully will stop any air starvation on the two front cylinders. Anyway will keep you guys posted on the result... when i get a map done on RON95... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I still run with the Kinetix SSV Plenum but as most of you will know I had to reweld the seams to try and keep it together, with it being stainless I could not weld myself so it had to go to a local specialist. Abbey have also welded it twice. There is no advantage with NA but as it is made of toilet paper then it is troublesome on FI with high numbers. It was only the seams that gave way as per the picture. The early ones were only fused together but I believe the later ones are welded properly but I have yet to see one. The advantage of the SSV to me is that it leaves plenty room for the coolant header and also loadsa room for the TB which as you will see is now cable, so there is plenty room for the butterfly lever, also access to the plugs is much easier. I also have an idle control valve welded into the underside of the SSV plenum. As you will see from the graphs below the SSV plenum certainly does it job but it does not like high numbers as only the other week I had it off again for more welding. If it lets me down again then I will definately swop it out for the Cosworth plenum which I have sitting here waiting to be fitted, in fact I would have done it already but it would mean another 1000 mile round trip to Abbey for a remap and I would also have to turn the TB 180 degrees so that the linkage is on the rear + the idle control valve would have to welded into the cast/alumium Cosworth plenum. I would also have to find another location for the coolant header. Anyway some pictures for you. These numbers are from the hubs and not the fly. like the setup where I want to be in a year or two ... do you have full specs on the current system you are running? Looks sweet... the cosworth plenum i heard somewhere you might need some sort of spacer kit if you have aftermarket injectors ... not sure thats true but wonder if you can confirm that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I have a spare brand new SSV plenum cover available if you don't already have one. It really finishes it off but it won't fit mine due to a few extras getting in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I have a spare brand new SSV plenum cover available if you don't already have one. It really finishes it off but it won't fit mine due to a few extras getting in the way. how much delivered to ireland? what stuff is in the way? (might happen me too down the line... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I was going to get the SSV plenum and cover but for the issues Alex mentioned about the build quality..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset350z Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I don't think thats an issue on the revised version, and besides Alex is running high power outputs on his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I was going to get the SSV plenum and cover but for the issues Alex mentioned about the build quality..... You will have no worries if NA but you will have NO HP gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I was going to get the SSV plenum and cover but for the issues Alex mentioned about the build quality..... You will have no worries if NA but you will have NO HP gains. I had read on my350z that people still had issues with NA applications as well? And apparently it changes the induction noise quite a lot (and it's not an improvement?)? If those with them tell me different then I might be back in the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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