Dicky Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Looking to clean off all rust under the car, then coat with Hammerite under seal (I understand you can get it with waxoil in it) or other stuff if you've got any better suggestions. Also do you think "Cure Rust" is any good and worth using. Any advice welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanjuke Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I done mine with waxoil,it smelt for a couple of weeks,cost me £100.00 for full decrease,clean,then it was waxoiled,well worth it up hear in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Bilt Hamber Dynax range pisses all over Waxoyl in every way these days. I'd recommend that personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I did mine with waxoil, mainly because I had enough in shed to do whole car. I used Krust before hand to kill any rust, then painted were needed before applying under seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 What's the cost of getting this done by a pro? I presume they need to take off the exhaust off to do it properly ? Looking into it for my 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R88RPE Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I used the clear waxoyl so I can keep a eye on the metal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenLandy Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 As said, Bilt Hamber is good, as is Dinitrol. NEVER ever ever use hammerite. Unless you like repainting things every few weeks! It peels off in sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 There's a company up here in Newcastle who charge something like £350 to to an under seal for you, which I suppose isn't bad when you consider the hassle there's going to be. Big for me problem though is will they take the care that I will, but I doubt it. I understand that wax oil runs all over and is therefore difficult to apply. I'll look into the Bilt Hamber Dynax stuff as well ilogickal1. I'll also follow the Cure Rust n paint route as well Piranah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIGWEL Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Personally i wouldnt use kurust. Its the film it leaves that goes black. Not the rust. It creates a protective airtight seal thats all. Waxoyl underbody seal is good as it doesnt dry out and peel. . And as stated before hammerite is useless. It chips off and flakes and doesnt stop rust at all. Also the runny waxoyl is the clear one that is usually injected into cavities but to do this you usually need to heat it to make it thin enough. The proper waxoyl underbody seal doesnt run badly at all Edited October 21, 2015 by MIGWEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Personally i wouldnt use kurust. Its the film it leaves that goes black. Not the rust. It creates a protective airtight seal thats all. Waxoyl underbody seal is good as it doesnt dry out and peel. . And as stated before hammerite is useless. It chips off and flakes and doesnt stop rust at all. Also the runny waxoyl is the clear one that is usually injected into cavities but to do this you usually need to heat it to make it thin enough. The proper waxoyl underbody seal doesnt run badly at all That's interesting. Just had the little bit of rear wheel arch rust cut out and repaired. The guy squirted loads of waxoyl between the panels which took a day or so to eventually stop dripping out. Didn't know it had to be heated first and assumed applying it while lying on your back under the car would have been quite challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Would you guys recommend under-sealing in a warm garage or cold weather ok for that stuff? As I was thinking this would be a good little/big project to do over winter, but I don't have a garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Bilt Hamber Dynax range pisses all over Waxoyl in every way these days. I'd recommend that personally. Just googled that an loads of great reviews, so will be using that. Question is: do I need to use anything before I apply that? Or just use wire brush to clean up surface? Do I need anything for already rusty bits? Like rust killer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Just googled that an loads of great reviews, so will be using that. Question is: do I need to use anything before I apply that? Or just use wire brush to clean up surface? Do I need anything for already rusty bits? Like rust killer? Yes, you'll ideally need to treat any rust first - surface rust can just be cleaned up with a wire brush though - otherwise it'll only ever get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I did mine with waxoil, mainly because I had enough in shed to do whole car. I used Krust before hand to kill any rust, then painted were needed before applying under seal. External as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Just googled that an loads of great reviews, so will be using that. Question is: do I need to use anything before I apply that? Or just use wire brush to clean up surface? Do I need anything for already rusty bits? Like rust killer? Yes, you'll ideally need to treat any rust first - surface rust can just be cleaned up with a wire brush though - otherwise it'll only ever get worse. Well, might as well do it properly while I'm under there lol Would you reccomend any good rust killer/treatment? And is it ok to do it in a cold weather? Edited November 27, 2015 by Vlad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 No idea on rust treatment to be honest. BH should be okay in the cold but it'll take a bit longer to dry fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyboarder81 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Can you do this with the exhaust still on ? Or is it a case of stripping as much as possible ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 No idea on rust treatment to be honest. BH should be okay in the cold but it'll take a bit longer to dry fully. Thanks. Drying time is no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Can you do this with the exhaust still on ? Or is it a case of stripping as much as possible ? Can be done with exhaust on, but I would do it with it off as A ) you want to make sure you cover everything and don't miss bits B ) if you get it on the exhaust - it will be burning off when hot and I guess that would stink and smoke? C ) I would imagine it will make job a lot easier. Exhaust is not that hard to take off, done it few times without ramp. Edited November 28, 2015 by Vlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard.hezlett Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'm planning on doing a bit of undersealing to my 03 Z. At the minute my plan of attack is 1 Brush off any flaky bits. 2 Treat with Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80 ( rust converter ) 3 Spray with Bilt Hamber Surfex HD ( degreaser ) 4 Treat with Bilt Hamber S50 ( wax ) Would welcome any other views or suggestions as I'm no expert on this front! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbad Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hi guys does anyone know who can help professionally treat rust and underseal in the Milton Keynes area perhaps í ½í¹í ½í¹í ½í¹ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'm planning on doing a bit of undersealing to my 03 Z. At the minute my plan of attack is 1 Brush off any flaky bits. 2 Treat with Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80 ( rust converter ) 3 Spray with Bilt Hamber Surfex HD ( degreaser ) 4 Treat with Bilt Hamber S50 ( wax ) Would welcome any other views or suggestions as I'm no expert on this front! I wonder how much stuff (Hydrate 80 and S50 wax) would i need to underseal whole car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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