Z-Boy Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Hi All Well I always new it would happen, I got caught doing 68 in 50 zone. What do people think I will get? I'm hoping for a speed awareness course First time no point, I'm 47 and been driving sine 17 so 30 years clean. Thanks Quote
WINKJ Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 i think you will be on the edge of getting offered the course or not. how do you know you were going 68 in a 50? have you received the letter yet? TBH, I think you'll be lucky to get the course. Quote
TT350 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Could be touch and go. Doing nearly the national limit in a 50 zone. Good luck though mate. Quote
Kraziekatz1 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) http://www.nopenalty...nesscourse.html Good luck Edited September 14, 2015 by Kraziekatz1 Quote
Rock_Steady Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I think you getting the course is reaching a bit. I think they'll just throw the book at you. Hate to say it but I'd've thought that would be a court date Edited September 14, 2015 by Rock_Steady Quote
monkeybrain1234 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Borderline I would say - Course or points could go either way. Pray to the car gods . . . Quote
Kraziekatz1 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 No, court case would be 76 in a 50, the big issue is was he caught in an area that offers the speed awareness course....lots of places don't! 1 Quote
TT350 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 No, court case would be 76 in a 50, the big issue is was he caught in an area that offers the speed awareness course....lots of places don't! Oooooeee we can haz moar speed!! Quote
LRF4N Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 The cutoff for the courses used to be 10mph above the limit. Not sure if that's changed? Quote
WINKJ Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 The cutoff for the courses used to be 10mph above the limit. Not sure if that's changed? yes it isn't that clear cut, individual police forces in each county set the limits. I was caught recently doing 79 in a 70 and got offered the course. However on my letter it seemed as if I was going 78 I wouldn't of been offered the course - maybe as I wouldn't of been flagged with the 10% threshold thingy?! Quote
brillomaster Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 doubt you'll get offered the course - however it doesn't hurt to request it. normally the course is only for people just over the limit, ie 33-36mph in a 30, 44-48mph in a 40 and so on. when I was nicked I was doing 85 on a motorway and was not offered a course - but I requested it and said it would be far more beneficial to my education than simply points (which it was) Quote
gsexr Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 My money is on 3 points and a fine mate Quote
JetSet Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Around here it's 40 in a 30 limit, some places it's around the 36 mark. Extrapolating from the limit around here I'd guess 62-64 in a 50 limit but each force will set their own limit. Pete Quote
Rock_Steady Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) well, I was thinking that the recorded speed was just over a third of the limit in question. I'd've thought that would be a court date. I hope i'm wrong. Just seems a bit quick in a 50 zone for a smack on the hands so to speak. Edited September 14, 2015 by Rock_Steady Quote
Z-Boy Posted September 14, 2015 Author Posted September 14, 2015 Hi All Thanks for your responses and it looks like I would be very luck to get the course, I got the letter Saturday. Real pain in the a-hole, I know its my own fault, bu still. Thanks Quote
Z-Boy Posted September 14, 2015 Author Posted September 14, 2015 Update Most of the websites actually say its a Class B driving offense 4-6 points and a weeks salary as a fine? Oh well maybe its a small price for 30 years of exuberant driving. 1 Quote
Kraziekatz1 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Oh, ok....so you've already had the letter. If they were going to offer you the course you would have got the details in with the letter. Bad luck Was it a static or mobile speed camera? just wondering if the police are starting another speed campaign, there's been a lot of signs going up all over the place. There's a dual carriage way near Bracknell that is actually a 50mph, but most drive at 70 on it, so can sympathize with you a little......still at least you've not got to go to court! Quote
JetSet Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Oh, ok....so you've already had the letter. If they were going to offer you the course you would have got the details in with the letter. Bad luck No, it doesn't work like that. First of all you get a letter of intended prosecution. You have to fill in and send the attached form back to them to ensure the details are correct, eg your wife could have been driving. Once the police have had this back they'll assess if a SAC is suitable. Pete 2 Quote
WINKJ Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Oh, ok....so you've already had the letter. If they were going to offer you the course you would have got the details in with the letter. Bad luck No, it doesn't work like that. First of all you get a letter of intended prosecution. You have to fill in and send the attached form back to them to ensure the details are correct, eg your wife could have been driving. Once the police have had this back they'll assess if a SAC is suitable. Pete That's not correct Pete, It happened to me 3 weeks ago exactly as explained by Kat. I was offered 2 options in that first letter, course or points Quote
Kraziekatz1 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Oh, ok....so you've already had the letter. If they were going to offer you the course you would have got the details in with the letter. Bad luck No, it doesn't work like that. First of all you get a letter of intended prosecution. You have to fill in and send the attached form back to them to ensure the details are correct, eg your wife could have been driving. Once the police have had this back they'll assess if a SAC is suitable. Pete That's not correct Pete, It happened to me 3 weeks ago exactly as explained by Kat. I was offered 2 options in that first letter, course or points Are you doing the course in Reading? Quote
Vik54 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 NIP comes first. Then you will get options. Although up here the options are now non-existent. 3 points and £100 fine automatically. And anyway remember the insurance companies have got wise to the awareness course option now and they don't just check have you any points - the question they ask is - any motoring offences - and nowadays the drop down includes awareness course. Quote
LRF4N Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Don't think the courses were ever an option in Scotland When I did mine in Northamptonshire they said it wasn't a legal requirement to tell insurers. This was around 5 years ago. That was the whole point in the courses- education and being let off with a warning so to speak But now the insurance companies always ask about these courses on the phone and online. Any way to make money for them Quote
JetSet Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Oh, ok....so you've already had the letter. If they were going to offer you the course you would have got the details in with the letter. Bad luck No, it doesn't work like that. First of all you get a letter of intended prosecution. You have to fill in and send the attached form back to them to ensure the details are correct, eg your wife could have been driving. Once the police have had this back they'll assess if a SAC is suitable. Pete That's not correct Pete, It happened to me 3 weeks ago exactly as explained by Kat. I was offered 2 options in that first letter, course or points That's how it works in North Wales, it really doesn't make sense to offer the course at the same time before confirming who the driver was. I mean what if its a company car, a hire car? Pete Edited September 14, 2015 by JetSet Quote
davedutch Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 It was my understanding that if you did the course there was no conviction therefore no need to tell insurers. I was clearly told that when I did mine. It's an interesting quandary, if you don't tell when asked you are withholding relevant info but apparently you don't have to tell them - best be honest if asked but no need to volunteer if not asked. Go for the course if offered. Quote
LRF4N Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 It was my understanding that if you did the course there was no conviction therefore no need to tell insurers. I was clearly told that when I did mine. Likewise But this is insurance companies were talking about. Anything to make money Making you car safer with winter tyres also costs money with insurers... Quote
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